Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Superquad7, Dec 1, 2011.
Announced on TT website
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Well, I guess the good news is that we’ll be able to get Bee and Blackarachnia at the same time and save on shipping then.
I’ll admit I’ve got some personal bias on this, since I’m a major fan of the new direction’s complexity and appearance. But I never once said I wanted redos over new characters. I’d kill for a Trailbreaker, Mirage, Brawn, Jazz, anyone. And yeah Soundwave was above average in quality in that he can still kinda hold his own when placed with MP-36 or MP-44. But I still want a Soundwave with a more complex design that replicates the look I grew up with perfectly. But choosing one over the other? Not sure that’s a decision I could make on a dime.
What puzzles me are people that desperately want and desire completion but won't turn to the dark side. Sorry to say, but it's the only way it will ever happen. If you're entirely opposed to 3P and would rather not have the character at all than a 3P representation, that's well and good, BUT then you need to accept and embrace the fact that you're NEVER going to have a complete cast of any kind. TT doesn't have a goal of finishing your collection...in fact, they don't want you to! Their goal is for you to keep buying their product. It's actually in their best interest for their customers to WANT them to redo the same characters over and over...
BTW, this response isn't directed specifically at you, SS1980. It may or may not apply to you at all. I just quoted you as a springboard.
edit: BTWII, I actually agree with your opinion on redos...but what I wrote still applies. TT is out to make money...it's their one and only goal. Redoing the most popular characters is typically going to be more profitable than releasing obscure characters for the first time.
@kibble I do agree that 3P is a pefectly viable option for the characters Takara has not given us.
I own Sphinx, J4ZZ and Downbeat and really like all three of them.
While I'm still convinced that we will get MPs for Jazz, Mirage and CJ, their respective 3Ps are stellar standins.
Personally, I'm one who prefers the Official product to 3P. It all boils down to personal preferance, and budget. I'd rather spend money on an extra MP of a favorite character.
If it looks like TT isnt't going to do a particular character, that's when I start looking at potential 3P alternatives.
So should I expect an email from AJ about Bee?
I have zero problem with this dude being delayed.
I think it's less that people want "do-overs" over new characters, and more that they're expecting it, that Takara is going to try and cash in on the popular characters by remaking them in the new direction.
That's the cynical way of putting it, and there's a good amount of backlash against it. Just because some people are more positive about it and receptive to it doesn't mean we want it to happen next. The other sentiment I've seen is that the only characters that are left are those that are either less popular or those that present challenges with licensing, so there's that, too.
I feel Starscream 3.0 is inevitable and will be happening sooner than I'd like. I would rather get more carbots and minibots first. So I'm with you in wanting new characters before more remakes. I think most people are. Doesn't mean I don't want the remakes at some point, though.
But even if people want a remake of Sideswipe before, say, Jazz or Mirage, what's wrong with that? It's a collection goal that isn't in alignment with yours, but so what? If this hypothetical person wants a Sideswipe 2.0 before any new characters, that doesn't mean it's going to happen.
Count me as a guy who's not just "receptive" to re-dos, but actively wants them. Ever since the current line's direction solidified in Inferno with max articulation, accessories/gimmicks, paint, and cartoon accuracy (while still retaining licensed alts), I've wanted all characters done and re-done up to that standard, especially the core characters. In fact, I'd rather have re-dos of Starscream and his bros, Soundwave and his tapes, Grimlock, and Rodimus than just about any new character (Galvatron might be my only exception). For me, Starscream 3.0 > Jazz haha
Yeah I actively despised redos before but now welcome them. Especially a Soundwave. Can you imagine him slavish cartoon colours and build with the articulation of mp44/mp36? He'd be glorious posed with his tapes (MMC)
Just give me Galvatron first please.
I get it, man. I would love to see Prowl get a 2.0 at some point, because he's one of my favorite characters and the + version isn't enough for me. And Starscream certainly needs an update. MP-11 is fine for what it is, but a cartoon accurate Starscream, slathered in paint...it will be a thing of beauty.
Still, I'd prefer to get official versions of the characters I've been waiting on since 2013 (Hound, Trailbreaker, Mirage, Cliffjumper, Galvatron, Blaster, Perceptor) before any more do-overs. I doubt that'll happen, though, and I certainly won't turn away the remakes.
I'm just enjoying the ride.
Well, there we go! I’m obviously in a minority - fair play...
I wouldn’t consider it the minority unless you’re completely against redos of older characters. But better versions of more popular characters is certainly appealing. I’d rather have a better Starscream than say Huffer. But I would jump all over Jazz, Mirage, Brawn, or Cliffjumper
Yeah, I was trying to say that I didn't think you had a minority opinion. Like I said, I actually agree with you - partially - in that I want new characters first, but am okay with remakes. I think there are plenty of people that agree with you, but I'm not sure they frequent this particular thread...
Bah. Make me an old school clunky Perceptor, and we'll be besties, TT.
I like the redos and preemptively sold my Starscream and Soundwave (both were Hasbro so they didn't fit 100% colorwise for me anyway) in prep for eventual + or remakes. But honestly, I also want to get TT on track for rolling out some of the good ol boys who haven't been done in tandem with these redos. Hound finally coming out is a dream come true for me, but I want a complete S1 set, and then I can happily move on to BW, I think.
That’s living dangerously my man.
You’re in the danger zone.
I'm with you, I don't currently own a MP Starscream or Soundwave either.
He’s a hell of a lot smarter than me. I’d love to unload my S1 seekers and Soundwave and Soundblaster with confidence. I know remakes are coming...... but I keep figures like MP-10 and all the variants after buying 44 so I don’t event know what my goals are any more lol.
The main point Here I feel is I would be happier with new seekers and Soundwave.
Yes I want insecticons and sharkticons and jazz that other bullshit too. But still. I feel a deciticon year is coming. With Minibots. Let’s do it!!!!
I get that some folks sell theirs off once they feel they’re obsolete, but man, that’d be tough for me to do. Especially without a 100% confirmed new version on its way. The gap in my collection would drive me mad like a telltale heart.
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