Another random thought I was batting around at TFcon a few weeks back with Fairlady_Z (partial credit to her for helping me figure this one out) In Revenge of the Fallen, the basic outline of the Fallen is that: - Long ago, he was a part of an ancient group known as the Primes. - He rebelled against them and tried to harvest the sun using a device on Earth. - He was defeated by the other Primes. - Present day, he lurks in the wreck of a Decepticon ship, inwilling or unable to leave until after Optimus Prime dies, at which point he's fine and dandy. Now, I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with the basic concept of the ancient astronaut theory, i.e. that some human mythology and folklore was inspired by events beyond human understanding or visitors with advanced technology. Let's look at the myth of Prometheus: - Long ago, he was one of the ancient Titans, allied with the gods of Olympus. - He rebelled against Zeus and the gods of Olympus to steal fire from heaven and bring it to man on Earth. - Zeus and the other Olympians defeated him and bound him. - In later years, Heracles / Hercules, who was part Olympian, would free him from his bonds. So, within the story of Revenge of the Fallen, could The Fallen be Prometheus? Their basic stories are the same, to the point where humanity could have lost the details in the shroud of myth and only remembered the basics i.e. stealing "fire" (the sun) from "heaven" and bringing it to Earth (where the solar harvester was concealed). That would suggest that The Fallen was less unable to take action, but more bound within a prison until the last true descendant of the Primes went offline and broke whatever it was that was used to bind him. It also ties in to a throwaway line from Epps, about how "if god made us, who made them" as it'd be looking at the whole mythological backdrop of the story. In general, it ties into that whole thing that they seemed to be setting up, though it never went anywhere. A pity, though at least with all the Cybertronian artifacts kicking around in Prime we might see some more there.