Star Trek: Picard

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  1. Haywired

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    She's a personification of a concept that didn't/shouldn't be personified to begin with. They wanted a clear big bad for the general movie audience, so they gave the Borg face and personality. Congratulations, First Contact. The Borg is now a person. It used to be a force of nature.

    How fictional concepts are executed do matters.
     
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    No, the Borg stopped being a force of nature when the cube exploded by putting them in to regeneration mode.
     
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    Yes, exactly. She's far too human when she should probably be more akin to something like Shodan from System Shock.

    The aspect of Locutus set the precedence for a "central hub" in the form of a speaker-combat-assimilation director. So the collective has that aspect. It's just the way they went about it + the retcon of who and what a Borg queen is was done in such a way to cater to non-Trekkie audiences and hopefully tickle the mental nuts of fans who wanted more Borg....which in this case worked.
     
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    Well, no... The whole "25% different" thing supposedly comes from this legality where if the creators of this series want to be able to make money off the designs, then they have to make it 25% different from the original design in order to call it their own work. To my understanding, they have always been allowed to use the old designs, they just wouldn't be able to make any money off of it if they did. Besides, I doubt the hologram is anything more than a little call back to TNG. Given the Enterprise D had been destroyed decades ago by this point in the story, I don't see the ship playing a significant role in the story...
     
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    Can I just say this is the most hyped I’ve ever been for a Star Trek thing. It’s really what they should’ve done instead of discovery to begin with.
     
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    Yes, but it's still the same writing group and show runners from discovery, so as much as I like Picard, I'm expecting much of the same poor plotting and writing.
     
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    Yeeeeaaah, but it’s much harder to mess up canon with a sequel than with a prequel. So there’s that at least
     
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    I was going to make a comment disagreeing with you, but then I saw the Porgs. So... never mind.
     
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    Please explain how the porgs in any way messed up Star Wars canon
     
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    I'm just joking. Personally I thought they were garbage along with the entire TLJ movie. Said movie ruining the entirety of the Star Wars franchise.
     
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    I mean I felt the same way lol, just thought the porgs were cute. The thing is though there will always be new stories in the future, that build on and can fix missteps that came before. The difference is discovery took something that was already good and overwrote it. I guess the Star Wars analogy would be if Disney had taken over and made rogue one, except totally redesigned and modernized every ship, uniform, and character in the thing, and then insisted it lined up with a new Hope.
     
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    No comments since October? Odd...
    Anyway, watching TNG I had a theory about the old man Picard is seen talking to. Given that it seems Starfleet successfully replicated Data to mass-produce androids with positronic brains... could it be Commander Maddox, who studied Data (and in Measure of a Man, wanted to disassemble him)? Checked on Brian Brophy and he looks old enough to be that guy...

    Also, anyone read the prequel comic? Seems Picard is sent to the Romulans years before the supernova hits to help with the evacuation. I quite liked the new uniforms.
     
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    That's a whole lot of not-Star Trek there.
     
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    You expected Secret Hideout/Kurtzman to make a Trek series?
     
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    Oh no, it's exactly what I expected it to be. Everything not-Star Trek.
     
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    So they are bring back Seven of Nine as well hmmm.
     
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    At this point they could bring back the entire cast of all the Star Trek shows, even the dead cast members, and I'd still not care. Not as long as it's still an action show, rather than a series about exploration, which is what Star Trek is meant to be. They've turned Star Trek, into Star Wars. Because of that, I have no interest in it.

    However, if they brought back no one, and just made an exploration show again, I'd be all for that.
     
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    All of this.
     
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