Hell yeah, after the Avengers rip off they need to do a Transformers Wonder Woman with Windblade, a rom-com with Hot Rod and Arcee, a goofball comedy with Iron Hide and Ratchet as roommates or interns, a real time thriller with Prowl who has been poisoned and has only 90 minutes to find a cure, a Transformers Mystery Hour with Detective Optimus Prime. There is simply unlimited options to give audiences Transformers movies in relevant ways that the audience clearly wants.

 

Ofcourse he's not speaking for you or anyone else directly, people are bound to have a variety of viewpoints on why they are not bothering with the new movie and i'm sure a smaller amount of people are still seeing it. Trying to factor in everyones individual reasonings while making a general observation is impossible to do as too many variables - so there is no point taking it personally.

He's reflecting on the general audience as a whole based off the gross earned by the movie. It's not ignorant to acknowledge the fact that this movie is underperforming in comparison to every over live-action Transformers movie and that the reasoning behind it has to, at some level, be related to a loss of interest in the franchise.

 

You're right, declining box office must mean people are even more interested in seeing it.

 

The Box office numbers and next to no people in the US market showing up is proof enough. I'm not arguing with you over it. Just saying overall interest is dying. If they don't do something different and exciting in a different way SOON with this franchise, we won't see another movie past the Bee movie.

 

Okay, the US market may be bad, but don't dismiss the facts of TLK succeeds more internationally. Just because popularity is declining in North America doesn't mean there's no popularity in other countries.

 

Comparison of Box Office Gross;

Day 3;
Tf1; $84.90m
Tf2; $127.85m
Tf3; $97.75m
Tf4; $100.03m
Tf5; $37.48m

Put simply, TF5 is performing about half as well as TF;2007 was at this time - and all films followed a similar release schedule in regards to when/where they were released.

 

The popularity may be higher in other countries. I'm not denying that but I've also been told from friends in other countries with the exception of China, that the flow of people to come out and see it just isn't strong. And I'm sorry, China alone isn't going to float this movie. I'm not saying the movie is dead or that it will die and be the last.

But if a movie fails in its home box office, that in itself is a fail. This is the only TFs movie I've actually not been able to defend. And for good reason. The movie is horrid compaired to past movies. I'm not saying everyone should hate it or that everyone should give up on the franschise. But with each movie, the franchise has been in a decline.

 

Does that account for adjusted ticket prices? If not the decline is even greater.

 

No don't think that does

 

I'm not surprised, the graph revealed a little while ago showed that each film performed worse domestically but did better internationally with each subsequent film. The US box office isn't everything so this film still has potential to do really well despite the very vocal haters.

 

I actually see this happening. Even though I love the movies there will be a point where the US will still caring and with Bay gone I imagine smaller budgets and thus weaker films in the technical department which won't compliment the storytelling if it gets "better". The films are destined to perform wide domestically with each be film unless there is some radical change.

 

Don't understand what everyone's complaining about, I saw the movie, it was great!

Ah, wait.. this is not the Wonder Woman movie discussion?

 

It won't happen because unlike these films, each marvel film is commonly made by different people so each one feels different whereas all Transformers find are the same nexuses they have the same directing style. That's why it's easier to get tyres of the films. If a Marvel film fails it won't be due to fatigue it would be because that one film some was bad.

 

‘Transformers’ Rises To $69.1M Over Five Days; But Still Lowest Debut In Series – Early Sunday AM Update

I'm seeing 45 million for the three day with 69 million total. Nevertheless, not good numbers. Bad word-of-mouth finally caught of the series. You can only survive so many films that score under 20% RT.

I'm just not sure what this current franchise can do to win back public favor. Even if the Bee spinoff is good, is that really gonna bring the audience back when the series has such a rotten reputation? The thumbnails on YouTube tell you all you need to know.

 

69.1 million domestically in 5 days & 265 million worldwide.

"IMAX screens generated $24.3m from 1,402 screens worldwide and this was the biggest debut for the series on the large-screen format and the second biggest of all time for Paramount."

'Transformers: The Last Knight' scores $265.3m global debut

 

Most of those don't need answering however. Who are the creators is the only relevant one. Where did the Allspark come from? After 4 films it doesn't matter and the film stated in the opening minutes that they don't know where it came from and honestly, it doesn't matter. Just because the Matrix exists it doesn't mean it should be in every single movie and the Seed is likely on the Knights hip but again, why does it matter where it is? It's not relevant to the film. That's like asking about the remains of the Sun Harvester still in the pyramid in DotM or the Arc in AoE. It just doesn't matter for the current plot although those two points were answered in TLK.

 

Funny that you mentioned that because some ass took a flash photo of his idiot friend wearing 3D glasses just after the lights dimmed. A flash photograph. He then took a photo of the film certificate.

 

Yep. Total bomb. No way it makes it's budget back let alone turns a profit.


/sarcasm

 

Sarcasm aside, the movie in total with production at $217 million and advertising probably close to the same let's just say $434 Million, I'm probably off on this for sure. They have made back the initial production budget, now let's see what happens going forward.

 

They have not made the production budget back yet by a long shot. They only get roughly 25% of international sales dollars, so they have only made somewhere in the $120 million range currently worldwide.