Welcome Mr. Roberto Orci, you may ask him questions

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  1. protostar8

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    Well, it's no secret that I thought the first movie's Transformer designs were pretty aweful. I honestly wouldn't have known who most of the characters were had the names not been said. So, I have a few questions about the topic of designs (like there haven't been enough and maybe that should send off a signal that something isn't as good as it could be if you get so many questions about it...)

    So, if you can sway me or maybe explain why things ended up the way they did, maybe you'll be able to make other people who don't like your choices a little more understanding to your decisions.

    1.) At what point did the designs become so "scrap" like that characters don't really resemble their namesakes or even traditional designs? Were these fairly close to the original concept artworks or did you choose these designs from multiple different designs?

    2.) Did you choose the designs based on trying to be "different" than what was already out there or were there some external influences that made the designs somewhat out of the creator's control (like Hasbro saying they had to look that way to not interfere with a line currently out at stores)?

    3.) Personally, I think something like a more advanced version of the "Classics" line or the alternators line would have worked very well, any comments on why you felt the designs you went with work better than more traditional designs?

    4.) Is there any reason for the fragile appearance?

    5.) Are the Transformers redesigned somewhat for the second movie (more traditional) or did you just use the CGI models from the last film for pre-existing characters?

    And I know some of it may sound kind of whiney, but I think the designs could have been so much better. Small things like changing the heads to look like the original characters or adding more "solid" pieces that are clearly visible in robot mode to just flat out using traditional paint schemes and colors could make a HUGE difference. I know quite a few people that LOVED the movie when it was in theatres, but then when they tried to rewatch it on DVD, ended up telling me that they wished the robots looked better and not so fragile.
     
  2. XLordxMegatronX

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    Mr Orci:

    Q: It was rumored that a group of F22s in the first movie were attacking Megatron in the final battle between Prime. One of the jets might have been considered as Starscream being up to his treatchurous ways like in the animated series. (not that this may be completely true) Will he still be loyal to Megatron in the sequel?

    Q: Since Arcee is going to be in the movie, a friend of mine and I guessed that Bumblebee was going to have the relationship of 'boy friend and girlfriend' in the second movie. Is this true or just a rumor?

    Q: It was shown that Megatron's body was dumped into a labyrinth in the final scenes of the end of the movie, where he'd never be found again. In the second one, he's going to make a return from the dead. I take it that this part will be an important roll of bringing the decepticon leader back in the second movie?

    Q: Will Frenzy be making a return in the sequel (after nearly deing a first time and then dieing in the second fight)?

    Q: Optimus mentions in the last movie that Megatron was his 'brother'. Was this just a simple quote or does it really mean anything?

    Q: In the Transformers video game I noticed some add ons in the clips. I take it that the video game couldn't be completely copy the movie or it was just going to be different with the same basic story?
     
  3. NitrogenB

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    Mr. Orci

    Any chance we'll get to see anything even remotely resembling the "Ark" or even a reference to it at all? Also, what about Telatraan-1? I know you prolly can't answer a whole lot, but it's worth a shot.
     
  4. krade

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    hello bob

    will we see a character from revenge watching one of the old g1 cartoon?

    in tf1,is there a you reason you have create MISSION CITY?why not only use LOS ANGELES name in the film?
     
  5. Wheeljack_Prime

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    I can answer that in one fell swoop (Think it was in a DVD commentary). The moviemakers wanted designs that emphasised an alien nature. Using designs closer to G1 doesn't exactly scream "We're from another planet"
     
  6. protostar8

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    Yeah, I'd still rather here Orci's view on this b/c to choose such controversial designs, I think there has to be more to it. The protoforms were alien, so when copying human cars, why would they still be so alien looking? They accomplished the alien look by showing protoforms.
     
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    Hey Bob, I know it's a little early but do you and Alex plan on doing commentary for Revenge of the Fallen when it hits DVD/Blu-Ray?
     
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    That would actually be very interesting. In Bay's commentary on the first film, he rarely talked about what was actually happening on screen at the time, and instead basically just recapped everything we'd ever heard him say in interviews leading up to the film. It'd be great to hear the minds behind the story give deeper insight as it plays out on screen.
     
  9. NitrogenB

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    that is a yes
     
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    If there's a third movie is there a way to bring the Dinobots into it, even if they lose thier Dino modes in the first few minutes of seeing them? You know like if they arrived back in the Dino era and been in hiding all this time. Also if Scorponok, Barricade, and Starscream return will you explain where they've been, or will we have to rely on the comics for that, and any chance they'll be in new modes to keep their survival a secret?
     
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    I thought the designs were pretty alien and animelike! Sick. except for Optimus' mouth. but I see where ur comin from. Although if this is really a design from the movie then Im all for it. http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=9578


    and question for mr orci! once again thk u for takin the time. Will we get more Starscream megatron banter? SOmeone probably already asked this. Secondly why would Optimus ask Sam to jam the cub in his chest if all fails? That woulda left Sam with a dead Optimus and a pissed off fully operational megatron still alive.
    third question, anymore casualties a la Scorpinok vs soldier with walkman on? Will the MPAA allow u a lil bit more violence in this one while still keepin it pg13? example, as someone else mentionned before: a decepticon transforming with someone inside him?
     
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    Mr. Orci,

    Just curious, but, what do you think of this image:

    http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attac...first-rotf-character-design-10130223539-4.jpg

    You don't need to say who it is, or whether or not it's real, just want to know what your opinion of it is. I personally really like the design. I usually don't care for bots with wheels in their feet, but something about this is really appealing to me. I'd buy at least one, if not more, toy based off of this design.
     
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    Orci, please please PLEASE tell me there are plans to have Dinobots in at least one of the Transformers live action movies!!! You can't say they are unrealistic, since you had a mechanical scorpion in the first one.

    Put your connections with Speilberg to the ultimate test... get him to dust off the mechanical skeletons of the Jurassic Park dinos.

    Especially if Unicron ends up being the main baddie in movie 3, you'll need the most powerful autobot faction to fight him, and that would be Grimlock and his soldiers. Rather than making them completely stupid like in the cartoons, they should be like giant robotic wolverines... peaceful until provoked, then all hell breaks loose.

    I'm sure Hasbro would love a chance to make more Dinobot toys, and there are millions of fans who hold Grimlock in a special place in their hearts, up there with Prime and Soundwave (based on the USA Today poll last year).

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    Roberto,

    How much when writing the characters do you try to keep the alt modes the same as the original modes for that character?

    The reason I ask is obvious as the previous poster has an image you cant comment on lol :) 

    Just curious about whether you have a limitation set by Hasbro, is there a process for selection of the modes as I m sure you need to know this to write the script as there are going to be things a car like a camaro can do that a Semi cant. Also has licensing of names created an issue where you have a character and you just write them in as a brand new TF because the old name is not available?
     
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    Mr.Orci.is it possible we can get more recognizable music from Gen 1(and other t.f.s series) in the music score and on the soundtrack c.d.,maybe a version of "the Touch" or variations of the theme song,or even some of the background music from gen 1 redone for the movie?also will we hear more of the classic transformation sound?I also think it would be cool to have a Gobot reference hidden in the script as well maybe show a kid holding a Cy-Kill or something like that.I also think it would be cool if a Decepticon stepped on a person and acts like the person is an icky insect..
     
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    So what youre saying is that Barricade wont just be back as a regular character?

    Well thats a dissapointing waste. It always makes the quality of a sequel go down when one of the main characters from the first just isnt around anymore.

    Like Sarah Connor dying inbetween T2 and T3. And we all know about T3. Except that might even be better, because Sarah wasnt relevant to the story at that age in John's life. Seems like there could always be room for another decepticon, even if just to be another lacky. At least it would be in line with what the first movie established. There are a lot of people that really like Barricade. It just always feels SO cheap when characters dissapear between movies.

    Dont mean to be mean, just wanted to express dissapointment at such a decision. Perhaps I misinterpret your statement anyways.
     
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    Mr. Orci;

    how did you feel about Transformers losing the special effects oscar to the Golden Compass?
     
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    Please I'm begging you guys. The whole rest of this forum is for debating topics so let's keep this one thread to asking relevant questions for Mr. Orci. If you want to discuse the Dinobots or what ever start a thread about it.

    This thread is huge as it is so let's all refrain from cluttering it up.
     
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    Mr. Orci, I don't recall this being asked, but...
    Will the "Transformation Sound" be used at all in this film? It was cool to hear it a few times in the first movie.
     
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    mr.orci,

    is transformers 2 doing to film in canada?
     
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