Fixed  

 

you right

 

I doubt that. Hasbro has C Level execs and shareholders that will have heads rolling at Haslab if Unicron fails, too.

If they did somehow stop Zeta from producing this, I can see it showing up again by a new 3P company called Teta Zoys or something similar.  

 

Zeta will probably end up producing this and it's probably still in whatever production phase it is in, but to be smart, they got there publicity, people know it's in the works, so pulling back/hinding content/information to not infuriate Hasbro is the right move. Zeta did what they needed to do, whether the piece is retooled to a larger scale (my opinion and not fact.), would like the final piece to be available in both the 18" and a 36" sizes (once again opinion, not fact or inside information)

 

You beat me too it... I think this boy is lost.

I'm still a backer here of hasbro. I'm happy they are making this though for people that dislike the hasbro one for whatever reason. I do feel like everyone is generally getting what they want from either company.

 

I'm not sure that this helps the discussion but it might serve both as a warning and explanation of why some sites have gone dark or refused to report on Zeta Unicron. In the Star Wars community some Chinese sellers popped up last week selling, most likely stolen, factory items of new Episode 9 toys on Ebay--nothing new there. Within a few days they were slapped down and their accounts were deleted--again nothing new. However fan sites on FB and webforums who has simply posted the pictures of the toys were simultaneously straight up deleted, no questions asked, or told in no uncertain terms that they had to immediately remove all photos of the toys or face legal repercussions. Addmittedly some of this was on the Mattel side and Disney has always been more vigorous in defending their products than Hasbro, but people were stunned by the site shutdown as they had never gone that far before. It seems like the major corporations are getting far more adept and interested in policing top fan sites for anything they may dislike.

 

This is disappointing but not completely unexpected. If they think this move will encourage/force more people to back the official one I think they've misunderstood why many people are intersted in this, they are quite different propositions. If this is canceled I shan't be any more or less likely to jump on board with HasLabs.

 

Again, like I said that's a nice story, but it's all just "He tell me". In fact speaking of social media, I wouldn't say it's all that far fetched that the original poster just made it up. I mean really, "a Hasbro rep at Botcon"...

Either way, social media reveals 3P projects all the time, and some people have complained about 3P since day one to Hasbro, so I doubt it really mattered this time.

Because the TF community isn't a hive-mind collective. But I'm not so sure it's as accepted by HasTak as you want to believe, there just hasn't been much they could do about it before (or even a need to as long as the 3Ps stay under the radar). I think Hasbro is far more aware of the 3P situation than we'd ever get to know, and I think Zeta might have been a bit too brazen and gone too far to maybe just ignore this time.

However, so far I also think the "end times of 3P" isn't upon us, and that most of the freaking out over stuff like a copyright claim on a YouTube video is a lot of paranoia. Honestly stuff like that isn't really that big of a deal, it just makes for good drama on an otherwise boring September weekend.

 

I understand Hasbro protecting it's IP but I am one of those that simply cannot afford $600 all at once and have no room for something the size of their Unicron. I do think Zeta should have waited a bit longer to show theirs off but they waited till the funding period was almost done and they would have had zero effect on the crowdfunding. Then Hasbro in desperation made an unexpected move by extending the crowdfunding. Even with the extension they need over 2300 more people in 21 days. If they open it up to worldwide they would have had it within a week. being restricted to NA was dumb to start with. I think they will still produce it because of the Asian pre-orders from Takara or Takara will make it on their own. I'm happy for those that want Hasbro Unicron but sad that those of us who wanted a smaller Unicron now get nothing. The Hasbro fanboys should be proud of themselves for selfishly keeping others from something they want just because Hasbro's Unicron cannot make it with out outside help. End of rant.

 

Just read about this. I hope that somehow this guy will be produced one day.

 

Maybe one day when this thermonuclear shitstorm has blown over, Zeta (or another incarnation thereof) will give it another go; hopefully with some revised tooling. For now, they'll lie low if they know what's good for them.

 

I bet they don't.... well not the execs and shareholders anyway. Otherwise, this wouldnt be a Haslab crowdfunded thing. Its a passion project by a small team of designers, but the bigwigs probably dont feel confident that this will sell well at normal retail. The high cost of entry is likely the result of the small production run it will have.

 

hasbro shuts zeta up. crowdfund fails. turtle project fails. designer is fired. hasbro hires zeta's designer. second project kicks off. hasbro promote a 80cm zeta figure. estimated $1000 + tax + shipping + handling...
zeta hires another designer, and shows pic of another core star....
this thread keeps going. trolls keep coming.
everybody wins.

 

Zeta needs to stick to combiners its what they do best. All this effort to make Core Star could have been used to design and proto-type Defensor.

Much respect lost with this company.

 

Because they proposed one figure rather than another? Wow. I assume you've also lost respect for Fans Toys, XTB, DX9, etc to the same level.

 

Remember that time when this whole thing was Toyworld’s fault for pissing 3A/Zero off??

Yeah, that was fun.

 

So... "I didn't get my way!" *Foot stomp*

 

If anything I've lost respect for Hasbro. 3P has coincided with Hasbro for over 10 years. Now that Hasbro has to compete with something they don't want to fund themselves they cry foul. This makes me believe they don't have confidence in their own product.

 

Apple didn’t fall far from the tree  .