X-Transbots Springer

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  1. Starganderfish

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    Anyone else remembers this?
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    Pretty sure this was at the painted test shot stage and it simply vanished. I still really like the hyper-realistic alt mode.
    Abaddon, Virtus, Dante... @ibot has a few figures like this
     
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  2. Snaku

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    Good point. I'd forgotten him. I wonder if ibot would say he's still in the works if asked. He's specifically said, recently, that Abaddon is still planned.
     
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  3. daddytron

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    Looks wise XTB's Springer ticks all the boxes for me over the others. If this ever sees the light of day, and XTB manages to bring the quality, it's a no-brainer purchase.
     
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    The only problem with this version is the huge backpack. I wish they could have worked some magic to reduce its size, but well it is what it is. I still don't think there's a really cartoon accurate Springer in the market.
     
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    Hmmn, what's the story @ibot? Is Dante still on the schedule or has he been abandoned? I'd love to know once and for all.
     
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    we have heard in the past that xtb don't only produce toys in their factories so stuff gets pushed back obviously because the other contracts pull in more money so they take priority ... the toy production just seems to be more of a hobby for keith and the team

    inferno i think got pushed right back due to the really good one we got from takara ( that's the most logical reason why )

    galvatron probably got pushed back because of the fanstoys one ( maybe )

    springer we have seen movement in the last year as we have also seen with kup and i think motormaster will take priority over those 2

    that's just pure speculation tho
     
  8. Chaddicus

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    Pretty sure someone said Springer is in line after the Stunticons and Kup, but this was many moons ago.
     
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    I'm not saying this is reliable but based on Seaspray, Baba on ebay posted pre-orders for Springer. If things go the way that Seaspray did, Springer is set for end of the year and is coming. At this point, its one of those "time will tell" situations.

    I agree with the above post, this is the most cartoon accurate thus far, especially on the alt modes but if XTB hits it with metallic paint, I'm out.
     
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    After seeing the pics of this guy... glad I passed on FT Apache and MMC Saltus. Saltus looks really good too... but this is more toon accurate. Nice head and face sculpt too.
     
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    Your speculation is accurate.

    The Stunticons had their priority changed after one of the CAD designs was stolen. I think that's been for the best overall, though. Sucks for the other projects.
     
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  12. Scrimble Citybots

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    Interesting! I can get behind all that, except that I would question whether XTB and Takara Infernos are in competition, given the level of detail in the XTB Vehicle mode?

    I think you're right about Sovereign shutting down Abaddon, but while I know people LOVE the Sov, it has so many weird bits with questionable materials and proportions: the feet, hands, lower legs, tank treads (uergh...) that I think XTB should persist with Abaddon. I love XTB's use of diecast in their minibots -- so well done. I think Sovereign just blows people away because its signature features: the face, chest and gun, make such a good impression.

    If XTB get the diecast balance right with Springer's alt modes, I will be all-in. I just *know* they'll get those chest proportions right where the others have stuffed it! (until then, shoutouts to my reprolabelled Big Spring what I love...)
     
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    XTB/KFC has shown ample proof they will delay something forever but get it out. Sovereign has nothing to do with Abaddon. Springer, Kup, and a dozen other figures in front did. Abaddon is still promised. I am still pissed at Dante and DaVinci being further delayed but iBot promised these. They were delayed because of Takara but will eventually get out. The bigger issue is that last year we got 3 figures all at the same time and then nothing. We are about to get Seaspray after Deathwish/Overheat. 3 figures a year will never solve their problems. If we get Springer, Kup, and Gravestone by 2020 Q1 that is something positive. Instead we are getting massive repaints and reissues. TFCon is going to tell you if it is repaints or progress.
     
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    That's pretty convincing luckyman. Is it more that there are no repaints for Abaddon that it hasn't been finished? Repaints have been OTT huh... I'm glad that Saltus did well as it shows every company the market can support multiple interpretations for different pockets and looks etc. Can't wait til someone fills the pocket of an actual good Springer lol.
     
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    XTB has had a long problem with manufacturing engineering teams being able to cross the finish line. It appears they have 1 that can and maybe another that can’t on these type of jobs. It has really slowed everything down looking from the outside. 598 can finish 20 designs and resin prototypes can be available but if the engineering team cannot get the plastics, molds, hardware and tolerances right for assembly then none of it really matters. All of the last 15-20 releases I have had including Eligos and Ditka have have been good but like Fans Toys it takes more time. To me it is still a skills resource problem. They have too much money sitting on the shelf and maybe that is also why they haven’t been able to fix it. It looks like all of these reissues are meant to fix the piggy bank.
     
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    I think it's wrong to assume they are to fix a piggy bank, we don't know their financial state. I think the re-issues make sense, if figures on the second hand market are fetching over and above their original RRP (Klaatu, Boost, Arkose all were) Then why not put push out re-issues before alternatives come out, it's almost guaranteed sales.

    Keep in mind, X-Transbots parent company is X-Plastics, they have their own factories unlike other companies which should be good right ? But maybe XTB is just a passion project that fits in and around when the factory has capacity, maybe that's what causes their delays
     
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    Abaddon is not finished because other figures aren’t finished. It has nothing to do with repaints and everything to do with XTBs inability to resolve their backlog like FT has over the last year. They are behind but making real progress unlike XTB.

    Look at the market contraction specifically with regards to G1 MP. There is maybe 2 or 3 more years here before I doubt we have any companies still doing them. People want to move onto these other lines. Getting 5 versions of the same figure was not helpful in the end and there was plenty of room in the market for people to corner off some of the more obscure teams like Fans Hobby did with the Monsterbots. We needed more Fans Hobby’s. Zeta needs to do the Victory combiners and more obscure characters like Fans Hobby. From here out we are going to be lucky to get the rest of the combiners and some leader figures. Gigastorm did an IDW Thunderwing that was great but it was obscure and expensive and they had no history and you have not heard of them since.

    We needed Bad Cube, DX9, UT, Fans Hobby, and Maketoys to stay on course with XTB and FT but everyone wanted to make the same damn thing like the Devy, Dinobot, and Predaking wars before the MP era. When you do that with Inferno and Trailbreaker and even Springer it’s curtains. Look at Maketoys Megatron. It’s a wonderful figure but it came out against 3 Megatrons because it and their Seekers were delayed by Inferno and Grapple competing unsuccessfully against other companies. They are quitting G1 and they have the best Seekers. If those came out 2 years ago when they were supposed to think of the success.

    In business there is no such thing as a passion project. If you are having development delays with a lot of capital tied up in one area you want to improve that situation regardless of how well other areas of the company are performing. Unfinished molds sitting idol can’t make money. Repaints/reissues are an easy way to get more bang for your buck out of the same tool and free up time for development progress. iBot has mentioned in the past specifically that they needed to invest in new teams to improve quality. It’s the manufacturing engineering /moldmakers that are the bottleneck.
     
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    were there ever any test shots made of this figure? the only images ive seen are said to be 3d renders
     
  19. luckyman76

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    Page 45 there is a picture of the prototype. Now that Seaspray is done supposedly this one and the Kup are next to be released along with their Motormaster. We have seen the test shot of it. Kup also has a prototype that we saw at around the same time as Springer last year.
     
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