X-Transbots MX Series Berserkars / Monolith (Stunticons/Menasor)

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by daimchoc, Jul 15, 2017.

  1. zfarsh

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    Indeed, just noticed he did say "hopefully" in April for Overheat / Deathwish.

    But lets concentrate on what is really important here, and that is : "arkose g2 and G1 both in April . now in painting progress."
     
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    Hopefully usually means, not really. I am guessing these guys will be June. Hei I'd like to be wrong since I want these to be available for the next eBay Flash Sale.
     
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    It's actually a dimmer switch for his givingafuck functions.
     
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    I mean, FT's looks nice, and assuming they don't screw up the articulation, it would be a nice bot, but it's the wrong size. It's out of scale in botmode with the rest of the Transformers that are sized to turn into Earth cars. So it really doesn't work at all in an MP collection except in combined mode or, barely, in alt mode.

    Stunticons in G1 were tiny toys and normally same-sized bots as Autobot cars in the cartoon, iirc. Making them larger than Autobot cars is going to the opposite end of the size spectrum with no good precedent and also renders them awkwardly out of scale in botmode when near other MP carbots.

    I can see FT making the Aerialbots similar in size to Decepticon Seekers since they are similar type of Transformers that turn into fighter jets. That makes sense, even though the G1 toys were smaller-sized. That's improving on the scale to gain consistency. What FT's done with their Stunticons is force the scale of carbots to be inconsistent with other carbots. It's strange and it's kind of a shame because they might be pretty nice bots otherwise. And i get that it would be rare for a collector to display Stunticons next to Autobot carbots, but it would at least be possible when they are scaled correctly, which XTB's are. For some, simply knowing that FT has scaled them so strangely is enough to turn them away. It's the knowledge that they wouldn't look right side by side with Autobot carbots even if they aren't often placed next to them.
     
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    Naturally, as they're unpainted plastic and the red arms are painted parts. And you don't want paint on high touch areas like hands, so it's probably as close as they can get it.

    TCP:
    X-Transbots MX-XV DEATHWISH (Deadend)
    X-Transbots MX-XVI OVERHEAT

    Most of the comments wouldn't qualify for that description. And it's nothing personal. After all, we don't even know who took the photos. But that person did their job ineffectively to pose it so awkwardly so it would follow that people commenting on that are perfectly within reason. if you're going to release shots to the public as marketing material for your product, you should at least try to make it look good. Technically, that's on both the photog and keith for approving the release of those shots. All seems perfectly within line. No one has been personally attacked considering we don't even know who took the photos that make Gravestone look so awkward and broken-sculpted in those action poses. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Meh, I still think it was done just to show off the articulation of Motormaster. I will reserve judgement until I see a finished MM because I don't believe they would shit the bed on him after doing such an awesome job on the four cars. If they do...well, I bought him to face off against Superion on a shelf anyways so I'll see the cars I love and not Motormaster.
     
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    I’ll wait for reviews when the set is complete. But if it is anything like Superion from Zeta, I’ll definitely buy a set. Will wait patiently
     
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    And TCP
    X-Transbots MX-XV DEATHWISH (Deadend)
    X-Transbots MX-XVI OVERHEAT

    You joke, but the price climb on these is actually kind of annoying. Many of us jumped on this highway train (see what I did there? No? It's cuz a truck with multiple trailers is a highway train and Gravestone was originally going to come with two... oh you did get it but it just wasn't funny? Ok then) specifically because Crackup was so affordable.* It's just a little frustrating that these later bots are nearly double the price of the first one. Going from $40 to $60 was annoying but going from $40 to $70 seems really drastic.

    And you know what? I will bet you that we won't know Gravestone's price until after Overheat and Death Wish are released and the orders are already filled and paid for. I love XTB and own more of their figures than any other 3p, but damn the pricing strategy on this set is putting a bad taste in my mouth. How can they have priced all three components of Powermaster Optimus already but still not know what Motormaster is going to cost?

    *Yes yes the stolen designs and KO nonsense. I know somebody is going to bring that up: shut up about that already. It doesn't matter why Crackup was cheaper - all that matters is that he was the bait and these later bots are the switch. At the time Crackup came out, the prevailing opinion was that all the limbs would be priced the same and ibot made no effort at all to dispel those rumors.

    I've gone back and rewritten the last few paragraphs and tried to tone them down because it reads as much more harsh than I'm really feeling about this subject. As I said, it's annoying but I wouldn't call it evil and it's not a dealbreaker or anything. I just feel like it could've been handled better. When we were all celebrating the cheap combiner set, Ibot could've stepped in and said something like, "hey, we don't know if all of the limbs will be this cheap. We might have to charge more for later ones," or something. And honestly, it's even a very smart idea to price the first figure cheaper so that people who aren't sure if they want in can, for a small investment try it out and see if they like it. A "free sample" kind of thing (or, you know, "discounted sample" in this case) where you get a taste and see if it's a set you'd be interested in. It's freakin' genius actually. As long as they're up front about it, that's a damn good business move. It's the lack of communication, especially when Ibot was constantly in this thread at the time and made no effort whatsoever to dispel the talk of a cheap combiner. He even once chimed in to assure us that Motormaster would be reasonably priced while letting us continue to go on about the $40 limbs.

    Anyway, $70 isn't unreasonable and I'm still in. Just not thrilled about how it's gone down. I really hope Motormaster actually is reasonably priced and I don't have to abandon this set with only four out of five of the figures.
     
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    It's why I said I wouldn't be surprised if it was gonna be about £75 to £100. That is if they include the two trailers
     
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    Totally agree with you actually. I joined because the first member was 40$... otherwise, would not have caved in to be honest. Second member was 60$, not happy, ok liked it enough to try it out. I was expecting the other two to also be 60$. Not sure if BBTS decided the 10$ increase, or is it XTB, but not cool indeed. Good thing for me, is, it is not a must have at this point, but if I can get Overheat for 60 USD shipped (with flash sale), i will be ok to get it too.
     
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    I've gotta say, these last 2 limbs look really good. Rubber tires and all.
    I'm glad to see that traditional XTB/KFC derpy face didn't go beyond Crackup.

    It's nice to know the last 2 XTB Stunticon limbs will drop next month.

    Just get them from ShowZ or Baba (especially during an Ebay flash sale). Those are the options I'll go with.
     
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    TCP has them for $70 as well. Looks like that's just the MSRP this time around.
     
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    It's XTB that raised the price. The cost price they're charging to retailers on these two is higher.
     
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    Just keep in mind that TCP will always follow what BBTS / TF Source put as MSRP.
     
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    Matrix1981 It's Hot Rod's fault...

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    The price is still totally reasonable. Check the price of the G2/G1 Seaspray. He is the same as these. They are bigger and combiner parts.
     
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    I guess Keith heard he had the high grounds...
     
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    I wonder what the price of these limbs would be if they came from Takara's MP line.
     
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    120 - 150 $/ea
     
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