X-men: Apocalypse

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    Fassbender :rock 

    Heh, I love these things. Unfortunately, I heard that Jubilee is barely in the movie. :( 
     
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    He's so so good.
     
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    Just going to say, Jean is my all-time favorite comic book character and I LOVE Famke Janssen. If only they treated her like this in the Last Stand.
     
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    Yup. Apparently there's a whole scene where the young X-kids are at the Mall (where Jubilee likely had most her screentime), that was cut from the final movie...
     
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    Interesting. Wonder if that means Singer is gonna "Rogue Cut" this one later as well.
     
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    That got cut? You sure?
     
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    Hahaha..I just called the number for Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters at the end of that commercial.

    BIG SMILE.

    XD
     
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    Fairly certain. I think it was mentioned on one of the Collider review videos that the whole scene was omitted.
     
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    Jubilee sounds unusually mature in that commercial. Also, it's funny that she speaks in much less of a 1980s dialect in a movie that takes place in the 1980s, than she did in comics in the 1990s.
     
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    Call the number!

    :)
     
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    very cool
     
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    What happens when you call the number?
     
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    Aww..I was about to say CALL THE GODDAMNED NUMBER AND SEE FOR YOURSELF, but then I realized you're overseas.

    It's a toll free number, fwiw.

    Stan Lee apologizes for not being able to take your call and reminds you that the school is having an open house the day the movie opens before he leaves you with one of his world famous taglines. <3

    But everyone should REALLY just call and hear it for themselves if possible!
     
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    Sweet dreams are made of this...Who am I to disagree?

    So I've seen the movie... like almost 24 hours ago. Why am I only posting this review now? Because life sucks. Anyway...

    It's not a perfect movie, it has flaws. It's not as good as it's predecessors, but I still enjoyed it overall. I'll run down the good, bad and eh, with some spoilers.

    Good:
    - The effects are way better than what we've seen in the trailers. Like, I thought the action was going to be mediocre going by the trailers but it's pretty good. Action and humor are good for the most part, and the effects are good with a few minor exceptions.
    - James McAvoy and Micheal Fassbender are great as always. Their chemistry, interactions and relationship between Professor X and Magneto has always, to me has always been the best parts of any X-Men movie, be it Stewart and McKellen or McAvoy and Fassbender. And it continues here. Sadly the characters of Charles and Erik don't have many scenes together in this movie, but when they're together? Great.
    - Returning cast is as solid as always. Like others I was concerned that Jennifer Lawrence would take away too much of the focus from the rest of the cast, but she's fine. Not great, but not bad. I mean, more time as her blue self would be preferable, but they do address it, so good on them. I didn't really get the feeling from her performance did she's getting sick of these movies or anything like from what I've been overhearing.
    - I was skeptical going into this regarding the introductions of some of the original X-Men like Jean Grey, Cyclops and Nightcrawler. However, it surprisingly works in the movie's favor.
    Cyclops has a very good introduction, and honestly he Scott has better chemistry with Jean than he did in the original trilogy, IMO.
    -Nightcrawler
    never has any scene stealing scenes like the White House scene in X2,
    but this movie does a good job portraying a younger version of the character. And he's likable and funny, so yay. Despite the large cast the movie never really feels bloated or overcrowded.
    - The new actress for Storm does a pretty good job too. I can't say at this point if I like this Storm more than Halle Berry, but good replacement nonetheless.
    - I didn't think it was possible to top the Quicksilver scene in DOFP. I was wrong.
    I mean, I guess I could be biased since Sweet Dreams Are Made Of This is one of my favourite songs, but come on he saves the entire population of the school in this one. And that's awesome. And he stays with the team this time, so that's great.
    - Wolverine cameo? Perfect. This short scene does a better job of showing the after effects of Wolverine 's experimentation as part of the Weapon X program then the entirety of X-Men Origins: Wolverine. And by extension, it ties into X2 as well. Also, Stryker returns,and he's just as much of an asshole as he always was. That said, I wish the final trailer didn't give it away, because this would have been way more effective if I didn't know it was coming. Like I could probably guess, but I don't want to know.
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    Seriously, what's with these Marvel movies and Star Wars references? This is the second one in a row! XD
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    Holy shit, the X-Men costumes at the end have colour! Still mostly black, but we've got colour! It's a step in the right direction, yes?
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    The ending certainly leaves it open for more sequels. Quicksilver and Storm are now part of the X-Men, and Magneto is off on his own agenda but on speaking terms with Charles. So yeah.
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    The ending also homages the ending of the original X-Men movie, with the exchange between Charles and Erik. Another thing that would have been cool to see without the trailer giving it away.
    -Best scene in the movie
    is about half an hour in, with Magneto in a forest. It's the most effective scene in the movie by far. I won't describe the entire scene here, but it perfectly shows why Magneto is in my opinion, one of the most complex and developed characters in any one of these movies, and an understandable reason for him to join Apocalypse. Its a scene where the writing, acting and direction all align to create a scene with real emotional power. In a movie full of interlocking storylines and crumbling cities, it’s a reminder that, sometimes, less really is more.

    Bad:
    - The movie's biggest flaw is a simple one: It simply lacks the character depth that First Class and Days Of Future Past had. I mean, there's some attempts to do so, and some work
    like the aforementioned forest scene, and the mind battle between Charles and Apocalypse(which I thought was going to be cheesy from the trailers but was actually pretty good in the end.)
    but on the whole it's lacking, and the film suffers greatly because of it. Speaking of...
    - Apart from Magneto, the four horsemen have very little character or any time to develop.
    We have a brief understanding of why Storm would join Apocalypse, but really have no reason why the other two would. So when Archangel dies at the end (persumably) and Psylocke escapes, I just don't care. (Oh and they all have like 4 lines each.)
    Also,
    the way they all end up coming together felt kind of convenient.
    - The opening act (the first 20-30 mins) drag and they are boring. Like we get
    Apocalypse and Cyclops origins and then a bunch of other stuff that I can't even remember.
    Fortunately the movie improves on that and each scene gets more engaging than the last.
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    Really? THAT'S the reason why Charles goes bald? I mean, I don't know what I was expecting but it sure as hell wasn't that. It feels like they had already finished writing the script and then realised they forgot to write that in, so they just shoehorned in an explanation.
    -The final battle is really bloated with all sorts of shit flying around. It's probably the most action heavy finale of any of these movies yet, but I found it hard to get invested in the action itself.
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    Quicksilver being Magneto son is addressed twice, and then never brought up again. I just thought such a revelation would have a bigger impact on our characters.
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    Nightcrawler being Mystique son? Never addressed! (I actually don't care, but there's going to be tons of people pissed off if the last few pages are anything to go by.)
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    Apocalypse dies when Jean Phoenix Ex Machinas him to death. It's cool to see on screen and all, but if you're unfamiliar with the character you're going to be lost. Well, that and it felt rushed and convenient.
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    A few subplots go unresolved, like the nukes being shot into space and what happened to Stryker. Oh well.

    Meh:
    - Apocalypse. Oscar Issac does a good job, but he's practically unrecognisable here. The character fluctuates a lot I find. Sometimes he's really corny, but at others he's actually quite scary. His abilities aren't very well established either, and it takes quite a while before we "get" his motivations. His looks and voice are improvements over initial though, and the stuff with him and Charles is fairly good. I'm mixed overall.
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    Magneto and Storm turning on Apocalypse could have been given more time to understand their reasons. They are established, but more development would be welcome.
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    Jubilee is in less of the movie than Wolverine is, and has less lines than the commercial above.
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    Moira gets her memories back, so good on them, I guess.
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    The school blows up, but then it gets put back together. Whatevs.
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    Havok :( 
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    About that after - credit scene...I had no idea what it meant; had to Google it. So apparently we're getting Mr. Sinister next, so cool I guess.

    So do I recommend the movie? If you've been following the franchise up until now, then yeah, go see it. Just don't expect anything as good as FC or DOFP. It's a satisfactory conclusion to the "prequel" trilogy overall with more than enough cool stuff to balance out what doesn't work. I'm really not sure why this movie is getting panned by critics. I guess all these X men movies can get tiring and seeing all the action and destruction can be repetitive, but it's not a franchise- killer, and definitely not deserving of being rated lower than X3:The Last Stand on RT. Maybe getting another superhero movie so soon after the near - perfection of Civil War is having an effect on people. I dunno. This feels like one of those movies that will improve with a second viewing.

    So yeah, go see it and judge for yourself.

    Edit: oh yeah,
    Stan Lee has a cameo in it too. Cool to see, especially since he wasn't in FC and DOFP.
     
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    Couple of stupid questions one is the mall scene still in there and two
    does Hugh Jackman play Wolverine or can you not tell because he has as I've heard and seen some sort of visor helmet on his head?
     
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    1.
    No. We see Scott, Jean and Kurt discuss going to a mall and see Return Of The Jedi at a theatre, but no mall.

    2.
    It's Hugh Jackman. While he has something on his head his face is clearly visible.