Someone can find a way to blame Hasbro for this, I'm sure.

 

No Aaron :'(
And I'm gonna ignore the part where you say Optimus has no personality..  

Also did I miss something 'cause last time I checked, Season 3 is going to have 16 episodes..  

 

Yes!!! But, I'll have to listen tomorrow

 

Even if Patch was a clip show, Prime has a real interesting way of tackling them and at least makes them entertaining.

 

Yeah, they integrate them well into the series. And then they keep the plot moving during the episode, not spending the entire time going over what has happened.

 

thanks for the birthday gift, Vangelus! I should have listened to this when it was my birthday...  

 

I don't entirely understand the discussion on Starscream's motivation for returning to the Decepticons. The parts about why would Megatron trust him and the rest, yeah that all fits just fine. It's how "out of the blue" Starscream decided he would return. It almost sounded like neither of you watched that bit where Starscream narrates to himself in... Inside Job was it? (I know that's not actually the case, just saying.) That monologue proved that Starscream was definitely in it for himself but illustrated him reaching another epiphany that he simply couldn't succeed on his own. The universe indeed hates Starscream, and so long as it does, he better not traverse it alone. It definitely could have warranted more foreshadowing in season two, hard to do when Starscream was absent for such a large chunk of it, but it felt exactly in-character with Starscream's hopeless state and paralleled the moment in Rock Bottom where he'd escaped the cave-in but knew that any action besides returning to save Megatron would be futile... that we conveniently saw among Patch's clipshow.

Also, Jeremy, I'm not a Prime forum regular or out to get you for your opinions. Be gentle.

 

It's fine. I can make it another two Primetimes before I see the light at the end of the tunnel.

 

In response to the 13 episode in season 3 thing. Hasbro if you truly think about has been spending a lot of money, running the HUB and release several Shows within the past 2 years.

GI JOE renegades
MY LITTLE PONY
TRANSFORMERS PRIME
TRANSFORMERS RESCUE BOT
Family GAME NIGHT
Pound puppies

So the reason i see for the 13 episode season 3 for both prime and pony (yes even pony is getting a shorten season 3)is so they can build back up some cash to create more of these shows. If a short season here or there means more shows in the long run. I say let them do it.

 

I think Starscream returning to the 'Cons was entirely based on the desire to simplify things for Beast Hunters. Prior to Patch you had Autobots, Decepticons, and Starscream. Beast Hunters introduces Predacons.
At the end of the day it is a kids show, so they have to keep things from being to complex. Having four "sides" would have been a bit much, so the options were return Starscream to the Decepticons or kill him off. I'm glad they kept him around.

That being said, I agree, they could have handled his wanting to return and his pitch to Megatron better.

 

As a farewell send-off to season 2, here's the finalized list for all of the Macguffiins. I shall continue to upkeep this list as we roll into season three next spring. Primetimes have been fun, looking forward to the last two and however many for next season  

I've updated it to include the Omega Lock, and any time the macguffins recur, if at all
Season 1
1. Regular Energon (Darkness Rising Part 1, Deus Ex Machina, Out of His Head, Stronger Faster, Orion Pax Part 1, Operation Bumblebee Part 2, Crossfire)
2. Dark Energon (Darkness Rising Part 2-5, Masters & Students, Out of His Head, Shadowzone, One Shall Fall, One Shall Rise Parts 1-3, Flying Mind, Alpha/Omega)
3. the Dingus (Convoy)
4. the Energon Harvester (Deus Ex Machina)
5. the Polarity Gauntlet (Metal Attraction, Regeneration, Darkest Hour)
6. the Immobilizer (Partners, Regeneration, Darkest Hour)
7. the Cybertronian Data Cylinder (T.M.I.)
8. Synthetic Energon/ Synth-En (Stronger, Faster)
Season 2
9. the Key to Vector Sigma (Orion Pax Parts 1,2, & 3)
10. the Spark Extractor (Operation Bumblebee Part 1, Flying Mind, New Recruit, Regeneration)
11. Knockout's force field generator (Operation Bumblebee Parts 1 & 2)
12. the Forge of Solus Prime (Operation Bumblebee Part 2, Alpha/Omega, Regeneration)
13. the Phase Shifter (Tunnel Vision, Hurt, New Recruit, Alpha/Omega, Inside Job, Darkest Hour)
14. the Apex Armor (Triangulation, New Recruit, The Human Factor, Regeneration, Darkest Hour)
15. the Resonance Blaster (Triage, Hard Knocks)
16. Toxic Energon/ Tox-En (Toxicity)
17. Red Energon (New Recruit, Hard Knocks, Inside Job)
18. the Damocles satellite (The Human Factor)
19. the Star Saber (Legacy, Alpha/Omega, Regeneration, Darkest Hour)
20. the Dark Star Saber (Alpha Omega, Regeneration, Darkest Hour)
21. the Omega Keys (Alpha Omega, Hard Knocks, Inside Job, Regeneration, Darkest Hour)
22. the Omega Lock (Regeneration, Darkest Hour)

Addendum for Cybertronian lifeform landings/discoveries on Earth:
Skyquake (Masters & Students)
Scraplets (Scrapheap)
Wheeljack (Con Job)
Knockout & Breakdown (Deus Ex Machina)
Airachnid (Predatory)
Cybertronian Plague Ship (Sick Mind)
Unicron (One Shall Fall/Rise)
Dreadwing (Loose Cannons)
Insecticon & Hive (Crossfire)
Smokescreen (New Recruit)

 

Haha, well, not to be "That Guy..." But when's the final Primetime podcast of season 2 coming up? I'm really wanting to hear you guys's discussion!

 

Take your time. It's usually worth te wait.