Would a Transformers movie work as a space adventure with only one human?

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by roy_flagg00, Aug 4, 2014.

  1. roy_flagg00

    roy_flagg00 I want more life....

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2008
    Posts:
    795
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +1
    see title
     
  2. The Stud

    The Stud Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2014
    Posts:
    169
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Likes:
    +3
    Yeah bro.
     
  3. 03Mach1

    03Mach1 Logic has been replaced with blind ignorance.

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2002
    Posts:
    16,962
    News Credits:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    387
    Likes:
    +2,831
    Ebay:
    In before 'it will only truly be a good film with no humans'.
     
  4. OptimusPrime108

    OptimusPrime108 Autobot Field Commander

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Posts:
    454
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Likes:
    +0
    Humans have to be there to serve as an anchor for the casual audience, but they should never be the focus of the film. I think future TF movies should take notes from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Just look at the title. The Apes were the main characters. They were in it far more than the human characters. Plus, it was a great move. I actually don't have a problem with humans being the focus. But if the humans are going to have garbage dialogue, and be 2 dimensional, then it becomes a problem. If Malcolm had been in Apes more than Ceasar, I would have been slightly ticked off, but in the end, I still would have enjoyed the movie because he was a good character and relatable.
     
  5. grindcore138

    grindcore138 ARF ARF!!!

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2012
    Posts:
    5,317
    News Credits:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Location:
    Clown Island
    Likes:
    +11,315
    Absolutely, there's no reason it couldn't work. Paramount/Bay etc. might not think so, but anything's doable with the right people working on it.

    As much as I'd love an all-Transformers film I've never thought humans being a part of them was a bad thing, as with everything it's all down to how they're written, but I've never understood why both in the movies and TV shows their part of the story is almost always justified purely by "the audience needs someone to relate to", when there are tons and tons of movies and shows with decidedly non-human characters that people have absolutely no problem enjoying.
    It doesn't matter whether they're humans, animals, sentient toys/vehicles, giant alien robots, mythical creatures, muppets, whatever, if you give an audience good characters then they will enjoy them.
     
  6. OptimusPrime108

    OptimusPrime108 Autobot Field Commander

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Posts:
    454
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Likes:
    +0
    While I agree with you about not needing humans and other things being perfectly relatable, for some reason, the casual audience can accept talking sea creatures, and a myriad of other things, but not transforming robots. I think the problem stems from the fact that the Transformers media is a byproduct of the the toys. The cartoons and comics were afterthoughts, as opposed to a movie like Finding Nemo, where the merchandise was a byproduct of the film. I may be wrong, though. I've seen people say the comics came first, or the cartoon, or whatever. But to my knowledge the toys were the inception of the Transformers franchise, not the media.
     
  7. The Stud

    The Stud Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2014
    Posts:
    169
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Likes:
    +3
    Bro, if we had to have 1 human, I want Marky Mark (Cade)! I loved his character
     
  8. Bumble-beePrime

    Bumble-beePrime Best Toronto Fighter, not

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2010
    Posts:
    366
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Likes:
    +1
    If done correctly, of course it would work.
     
  9. hthrun

    hthrun Show accuracy's overrated

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2011
    Posts:
    8,107
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Likes:
    +5,085
    Ebay:
    I think they could do it without any humans...
     
  10. MasterZero

    MasterZero Taking a Break

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Posts:
    6,496
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Likes:
    +62
    Is that where Sam went?

    What a bastard.
     
  11. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    28,841
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Likes:
    +20,264
    A space-set TF film would be cool. But these films work on the premise of a war being waged on Earth, so it's Earth and its people in the balance and thus neither Autobots or Decepticons could leave that setting.
     
  12. Gingerchris

    Gingerchris Telly-headed Tyrant

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2005
    Posts:
    16,100
    News Credits:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    387
    Likes:
    +2,578
    Could it not be a human space station or moon colony and its people in the balance? It might be refreshing to get the live-action movies out of the Earth setting for a bit. Reduce the population and materials/equipment available to the humans for defending themselves from Transformer attack.
    I'd kinda like to see a tense movie in a smaller closed and restrictive environment where humans have to struggle just to exist day-to-day and suddenly shit be attacking them and then transforming and vanishing. They can't bring in the big guns because they have to preserve the structural integrity of their space station or moon base.

    But if you wanted, Earth could still feature in some way just to touch base.

    Humans build their first space colony on an energon-rich moon.

    "Houston, we have a problem. Decepticons."




    It could be one of those 'side-movies' some people have suggested to help expand the Transformers live-action franchise/universe.
     
  13. Spaceman1251

    Spaceman1251 Legendary Warrior

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2013
    Posts:
    1,349
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Location:
    New Mexico, USA
    Likes:
    +1,138
    Instagram:
    It could work. Just give the human a transformium breather mask like Starlord's. :) 
     
  14. Autobot Burnout

    Autobot Burnout ...and I'll whisper "No."

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Posts:
    45,442
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    467
    Location:
    [REDACTED]
    Likes:
    +41,167
    Yes. Don't even need the human.

    What I think people constantly overlook is the fact that Transformers should be treated as characters who are really not all that different from humans. Sure, they're taller, they're mechanical lifeforms with laser guns and they can shapeshift into a more mobile or situationally preferable form, and travel through space, but character wise they have the same emotions, personal quirks and eccentricies, etc.

    This is why MTMTE works so well despite the fact a ship full of transformers doesn't have them actually transform constantly. All the major and secondary characters are actually unique individuals that the story and narration makes appealing to the reader. The constant excuse of "humans are needed to help the audience relate to the plot by giving them a human viewpoint" is total bullshit.
     
  15. CKPRIME

    CKPRIME Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Posts:
    4,137
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +2,519
    Its all about the dollar. I think the studio doesn't want to change things up drastically from the billion dollar formula they have going.
     
  16. LegendAntihero

    LegendAntihero Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2011
    Posts:
    14,163
    Trophy Points:
    217
    Likes:
    +44
    Yes and this
     
  17. OP84

    OP84 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2011
    Posts:
    1,224
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +5
    Most Autobots turn into cars. Cars don't work in space. Therefore, they would have no reason to transform. And since the franchise is called "Transformers", well, you know.
     
  18. Coffee

    Coffee (╭☞ꗞᨓꗞ)╭☞

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2013
    Posts:
    6,807
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Location:
    Ontario
    Likes:
    +4,257
    I don't think we'll ever know. Maybe if the Robots are simplified even further, then maybe.
     
  19. Meta777

    Meta777 Dr Pepper Fan

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Posts:
    15,761
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +7,064
    So use the Autobots that do transform into vehicles that could operate in space. Heck, give them all forms that would work in non-Earth environments since feasibly they may have had different alternate forms before arriving on Earth and finding some cars.
     
  20. OP84

    OP84 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2011
    Posts:
    1,224
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +5
    But then you'll hear many fans (including myself) saying, "Trukk Not Spayseship" (at least in the case of Prime) And it still doesn't make much sense. If the Autobots change their vehicle forms to something that could fly, what reason would they have for going back to ground-based vehicles.