Why ?????

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  1. davidargile

    davidargile Well-Known Member

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    My question is why do transformers fans argue amongst themselves on a film they have not seen yet and the majority don't know anything about it. Plus if someone shares an opinion people lambast them if they don't agree with it and over react with anything the person points out. At the end if the day people it's just a film. It ain't real and just enjoy it for god sake
     
  2. just1nj

    just1nj pro genji

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    It's a forum. What do you expect?
     
  3. MasterZero

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    Because if you have an opinion, and someone else has another opinion, you want them to have your opinion because your opinion is the right one.

    That's how some people see it.
     
  4. davidargile

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    Socialisation and etiquette
     
  5. tonyformer

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    This is the best way to say it.
     
  6. davidargile

    davidargile Well-Known Member

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    Who says the opinion is the correct one that the person has in mind and the way you can put an opinion about something over on a message board can be done in a way of etiquette and respect
     
  7. tonyformer

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    This is all true as well but more times than not, this just does not happen. Welcome to the Internet.
     
  8. Decepticons

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    Welcome to the Transformers fandom, and, I'm assuming, the Internet.
     
  9. MasterZero

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    The person who has the opinion believes he has the right one. There's a difference.

    Yes, but when you say something that you have a belief in, and someone does not have that people, your reaction, even if subconsciously, is something like "How can this person have that opinion?!" And some people, will take offense to that. Thus, they will say things with emotion and passion. Resulting in stuff like-

    "That's stupid, THIS is the correct answer!" or "How the hell did you get that?! THIS is the truth."

    Human beings are passionate. We're driven by emotion most of the time. Not only that, but the internet gives some people a feeling of anonymity. They feel they can say whatever with no repercussions.
     
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    This entire comment is the truth. And that quotation section pretty much explains daniel 97.
     
  12. davidargile

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    I know I'm not blinkered with how it works and tony I respect your opinion a lot but in some members it's just pure hatred to prove a point about a movie that you watch and is make believe and I just think - really does it matter it's just a movie and make believe does it really matter if its close to reality or not ? Lets just enjoy the franchise for what it is and be happy it came to the big screen in the first place
     
  13. Dillatron

    Dillatron TFW2005 Supporter

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    Its just the way we role.
     
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    I love Transformers, but fandom is a terrifying thing cause of the opinions. People go about saying nasty things because of.....stuff.
     
  15. MasterZero

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    Will Smith was the best part of that movie. What a cool guy.
    ...Yeah...
    I know it SEEMS like those people have pure hatred and such, but I, personally, doubt it. Again, humans are emotional beings. Not only that, but we also have a habit OF LOVING HYPERBOLE.

    "OH, DUDE! Avengers is the GREATEST MOVIE EVER!"

    "Oh, dude! Did you see that Avatar movie?! It was fucking AWESOME!"

    "Fuck, did you see X-men 3? Worst. Movie. EVER!"

    "Man of Steel RUINED Superman forever!"

    See what I mean? We love to exaggerate our feelings, making them bigger, cause, for some people, it makes us feel bigger.

    Some members of TFW2005 have called me a very optimistic and positive individual. I like to think I'm friendly enough.

    How do I have this friendly personality, even when I disagree with someone? Well, I tell myself, this person believes they are right. They believe they are the hero and I am the villain, either pure evil or simply misguided.

    But the truth is, there are no heroes and villains. Just different beliefs and opinions. And there's nothing wrong with that.

    That's how I go about my life.
     
  16. davidargile

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    What that people can be a troll because the Internet can be a place where you can say what ever you like with out much reprocussions as your identity can't be traced
     
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  18. davidargile

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    I've never said there is nothing wrong with people's beliefs or opinions but I do disagree with how some members express them opinions and beliefs in the aggressive manner they do and don't understand sometimes the other persons point of view.
     
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    The LAST part of that is the real reason for the lack of etiquette-the anonymity. It's the same concept in action as what goes on with road rage: you wouldn't cut in line in the grocery store would you? You wouldn't run up behind someone in public and breathe down their neck would you? You wouldn't sing loudly in a park right next to someone would you? No. But some do some or all those things in a car every day-cutting off, tailgating, blasting loud music with your windows down. Why? Because of the escape factor of being in a car and people feel insulated from each other. The internet allows people to operate behind a similar veil.

    Now, this is not an excuse for the behavior nor is it blaming the car or the internet for the behavior-they are simply tools being used by a person which are harmless in and of themselves (similar to the guns don't kill people, people kill people argument). So with that said, the behavior unfortunately says A LOT about the person and the state of society in general. You can be emotional without being an ass; you can be passionate without taking personal shots; you can disagree with someone and tell them so but "get" why they see it from their perspective. Just because you can say whatever you want in any way you want, doesn't mean you should. Lashing out at others for opinions and beliefs shows a lack of emotional maturity and development (and likely insecurity)-something that is pervasive over a large cross section of our society with no regard for chronological age.
     
  20. MasterZero

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    I never said you did.

    Again. Emotions. We're emotional. This is a problem you find, not just on the internet, but all over the world. People take things they like very personally. They connect with it.

    So when someone insults it they get mad.

    As people feel the Bay films do to the Transformer franchise.

    I personally like them, but some people see it as an insult to their own, personal lives.