Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by Nelomaxwell, Oct 11, 2019.
Was there a reason they scaled back his powers?
Basically, Hasbro wanted the Aligned continuity to be its own separate thing from Fun Publications' multiverse. But when the Aligned continuity as a concept crumbled thanks to the writers of Prime wanting to basically ignore what Hasbro wanted them to do, Fun Pub decided the best thing to do would be to retcon everything they've done just to fix Hasbro's mess. So now, every version of Unicron is its own separate entity. Though, this has allowed for certain Shattered Glass stories to flip the roles of Primus and Unicron.
Because that's what Unicron originally was, and "multiversal" threats are stupid because they're basically unstoppable by their very nature, so they're doomed to be defeated in woefully anti-climactic way.
"Multiverse" as a concept is just braindead and an excuse to crossover different continuities anyway. It's a good thing Unicron was "reduced" to being just a normally tangible big bad verses ass-pulled fan wet dream bullshit.
He's a universal God or a galactic scaled threat depending on what timeline he's being portrayed in.
He's still got 'God Status' in a lot of his appearances including Marvel G1, Prime, UT, and others. He's even got multiversal powers in G1 Marvel and the Universe comics. But that's only the 'G1 Multiverse' he's plucking minions from, not the larger 'multiverse'. And there's Dreamwave Armada being deliberately linked to the Marvel G1 multiverse through Unicron.
So all of these events are still canon, he's not really any less powerful, the Multiverse retcon just means that these are all slightly different Unicrons like all the Optimus Primes and Megatrons across the multiverse are similar but distinct characters.
He wasn't demoted but on the Roy he can only visit one universe at a time
Never made sense anyway. If he exists in all universes at the same time, then how is he in the center of Earth in some universes while simultaneously roaming freely through space in others?
The concept limits Unicron more than it frees him up for new interpretations. And even then, no one’s done much with the idea of him existing in parallel realities anyway.
the only good thing about the multiversal aspect was the Universe fiction and even that existed just to promote a toy line
I just blame the writers of Energon stipping him of his characterization like they did with other characters in that series.
Multiversal singularity concept was just bad. Glad to see it dead. Nothing of value was lost.
Wasn’t he dead in Energon though
To be honest with the writing the way it was, I wasn't ever sure. But I was mainly being sarcastic when I made that remark.
Don't think it makes much difference unless its a multiverse crossover type thing.
He was like half dead? Undead? Still fully conscious with a damaged frame?
I did enjoy those comics, short lived as they were. It took the effort out of reconciling conflicting continuities. Plus they went the Dreamwave route, making Sunstreaker a badass.
It's been a while since I've seen the cartoon, but what I can remember he was dormant but basically being used as a puppet by Alpha Q and then at times by Megatron. Then, IIRC, toward the end of the series, it turned out Unciron was able to exert influence over Galvatron. The writing was not very coherent and stories seemed to change on an episodic basis.
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey bullshit basically.
If Unicron exists as a multiversal entity, and goes into a universe where time flows differently, he could then enter another universe at an earlier point in history than the one he left from. Get his ass beat by the 13 and become Earth.
I guess so. But again- no one has really bothered to use it in any meaningful way, so getting rid of it doesn’t change anything.
Incidentally this is also why I'm not a big fan of DC's similar use of the concept with the New Gods. Specifically Darkseid.
Its much less of a headache this way, as much as I liked the idea of the "Unicron singularity" it can be played with in other ways. There's a lot more freedom this way.
Never liked the singularity idea, the enigma of combination, the 13 primes, or the idea of Optimus being the 13th.
With Unicron in particular, I always preferred the idea that he was a god, but only on the level of something like a particularly powerful C'tan from 40k.
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