Why the Dinobots' Origins Went Unexplained in AOE

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  1. Galvatross

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    I have been thinking about the Dinobots and why their existence was not explained in any way. I think there is a reason their origins were not touched upon in AOE.

    The Dinobots are first revealed as prisoners on Lockdown's ship. Why would Lockdown want to capture things as huge and powerful and feral as the Dinobots and keep them as prisoners on his ship? They don't seem like the type of robots you would go and capture just for the heck of it. There had to be a reason he had them as prisoners.

    Now Lockdown also captures Prime because the "Creators" want him back. If the Creators want Prime, perhaps they also want the Dinobots back, too, and that's why Lockdown captured them in the first place.

    The Creators also used the Seeds to create the necessary material to make the Transformers. One of the planets they cyberformed was obviously Earth during the Cretaceous, and obviously there were dinosaurs present there, and they became extinct as a result. It's possible they also detonated more Seeds on other worlds, too, and caused extinctions on other planets.

    Now if the Creators made the Transformers, and they also encountered and destroyed the dinosaurs, then I think perhaps the Creators designed the early Transformers after living things they had discovered and killed off across the universe. Perhaps the Primes and consequently Optimus are based on one species of extinct extraterrestrial humanoid, while the Dinobots are based on the dinosaurs and pterosaurs of Earth. Why? I don't know, but they were definitely inspired. Maybe they were built as living monuments to the species they wiped out. Maybe they were made in mockery of the dinosaurs and other species the Creators considered inferior. There are other possibilities as to why they based them on dinosaurs, too.

    Even if my theory is not 100 % correct, I believe the reason their origins were not touched upon is likely because the Dinobots are very closely tied with the Creators and the origins of the Transformers. I think the movie makers did not want to reveal too much about the Creators yet in AOE, and revealing the origins of the Dinobots would reveal too much about the Creators. Prime said that the legends were true, so there obviously is some sort of history with the Dinobots.

    What are your thoughts? Whatever the case, I hope we get to know the Dinobots better in TF 5.
     
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    Nelson once said the openning scene would be about Dinobots but something was obviously cut.
     
  3. Galvatross

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    I remember that, and I totally agree that something was cut. I also remember Bay in an interview a few months ago refused to say anything about the Dinobots other than Grimlock's physical dimensions. It was in the same interview he dished out a bunch of info on Lockdown.
     
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    I feel so many things were cut from this movie.
     
  5. RazorX3000

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    He said it would be the Dinobots in those "7" ships we saw in the early teaser/trailer. So, yeah, that was another lie by Nelson lol
     
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    He never said that though, we assumed they were dinobot ships based on that statement.
     
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    Not explained....... because it wood be good to have a story for TF5.
     
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    I remember someone mentioning something not so long ago about how we'd be seeing how the Dinobots evolved. Obviously that didn't happen.
     
  9. moylan55

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    I enjoyed the little bit of back story we got and I'm looking forward to finding out more. it baffles me when people say we know nothing about them
     
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    I think they'll go more into detail about the Dinobots in TF5, maybe having the prologue be about their creation.
     
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    I have yet to see the movie, but based on what I've heard, I'm wondering if the Dinobots are just cyberformed Earth dinos that somehow survived? Perhaps the Creators sent scouts to Earth to see what life was on there before cyberforming it, and captured the T-Rex, Spino, Triceratops and Pteranodon, and experimented in them with a weaker form of cyberforming that allowed them to survive, but they escaped and eventually captured by Lockdown.
     
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    I think the lack of dinobot backstory is just because 1: they didn't know where to go with their story yet, and 2: leaves things open to do with their characters as they want in TF5 without having to be tied down to some already established idea...
     
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    What makes you even think they will be back for the next movie?
     
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    A billion dollars at the BO and a boat load of toy sales!
     
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    You've got oversized robot dinosaur(and pterosaur) dragons running around China. No way that's gonna go unaddressed, unless they're saving them for movie 6.
     
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    That was an interview with Mark Wahlberg, he said wed be blown away or something similar by it.

    I certainly hope so. As inexplicable hype just hurts everyone in the end.
     
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    When I generally read such comments, I have to wonder if people have been paying attention to these movies. If it ain't Bumblebee, Optimus, or Megatron, these characters are easily forgotten about.
     
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    Yeah, the obvious guess must be something to do with them scanning the metallic corpses given that the T-Rex we see at the beginning looks exactly like Grimlock. That, or someone like Lockdown (or whoever) giving sparks to some of the metallic corpses. Whatever it is/was, it was a big mistake to not explain how or why the Dinos are what they are, especially since the entire intro of the movie appeared to be setting up that very thing.

    I'd also LOVE to know why all the Dinos are robotic versions of real dinosaurs (T-Rex, Triceratops, Spinosaur, etc.), but "Swoop" is inexplicably a two headed flying alien... thing. Why the hell is that?
     
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    I think we did see the evolution of the Dinobots just as we seen the evolution of TFs.

    What I mean is, we know the Creators need organic material to make the Transformeum. And while metal can not be programmed, organic material can be genetically programmed right? We can now in the real world change human DNA to give a baby blue eyes and brown hear before ever being born. We can grow skin and organs now.

    My point is, what if the creators found a way to make this metal that can be programmed based on the DNA material it was originally before turned into the metal?

    The Dinos that were turned to metal were harvested and taken back and that metal was turned into robot servents for the creators. It could be that based on the Dino DNA of that particular metal, they could only make robots based on the life it was before turned into metal.

    Lets go back to the Primes and those Cybertronains that followed them during the battle of the matrix in Egypt. None of them, even the soldiers looked like modern TFs. So maybe those early Cybertronians were also created by the creators based on another species they might have also been "seeded" into the metal?

    What would happen if the metal that Lucas was tuned into was melted down and used/reprogrammed? Would it look more human?

    And the new human built TFs looked like TFs because they were created from the same metal of killed TFs. So their looks would not change much at all.

    Also, if you look when Lucas is turned into metal, its only the organic material of his body that is turned to metal. A lot of his non-organic clothing is not turned to metal.
     
  20. tonyformer

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    It doesn't look exactly like Grimlock and the Dinobots were not on Earth to scan any Dinos at all.