I love all 4 films but here's my theory.. In TF 1 MEGATRON dies,I think if they had TF 2 in mind when they made that choice that wouldn't have happened. To me TF 1 was a movie that could only be lightly be made into having sequels. I mean you killed MEGATRON but then bring galvatron in tf4. Plus the plot of each movie didn't connect the greatest with AOE having the strongest plot for sequels. I mean look at rotf where was the fallen in the first movie ok maybe I can understand that but where was soundwave trying to find the ark and not mention it till TF 3? I guess that makes sense to but then where was sentinel in the first 2? Maybe TF 3 should've been swapped with TF 2 or was it megatrons plan to revive sentinel to kill the fallen? These are probally what some haters ask themselfs. If you agree say yes or no with reason
Again, there's no theory needed: RotF is an atrocious film. It fails on every single conceivable level for reasons that have been discussed to death for 5 years. RotF is the reason I don't like Michael Bay. Not TF 1, DOTM, or AoE. If RotF didn't exist, I'd have 99% less bad things to say about these movies.
You guys are wrong. ROTF was a powerful blockbuster that raised the ceiling for specatular action movie
I'm not sure if you're serious, but keep in mind even Michael Bay himself has disowned it. He called it, "crap", his words, and blamed the writer's strike.
During ROTF's production, the Hollywood writers' strike was in full swing, meaning the production went forward without a finished script or professional writers on hand to do rewrites, etc. Bay did what he could with what he had, but the production should have been halted, really, because what we got was a series of loosely connected action sequences. It was a mess top to bottom, but there were more profound and significant factors contributing to that than just "Bay."
I dont get why people don't start hating the tf movies at number 1 because let me tell you something, number 1 was awful, and having to wedge in an origin story didn't help it at all
I think at the end of the first film you still have lots of potential. People usually don't expect a first film to get every last thing right. They give a first film a bit of a learning curve figuring a production team can learn how do things better for the next film. 2008's The Dark Knight still had people in the mindset that sequels could eclipse a first film. At the end of the first movie it looks like they might be going in an interesting direction with Starscream as the Decepticon leader. There was nothing about the Fallen in the first film and the comic books made it look like Starscream as leader could be a cool and logical way for the films to go. I kind of wonder how people would have liked Transformers 2 if they didn't bring Megatron back from the dead or have the Fallen show up to take command. The first film the Autobots aren't ultra powerful, Prime hasn't gone super Saiyan yet and Bumblebee was a good scrapper but had not turned into Snake Eyes. There was grumbling about the humans being powerful enough to kill Decepticons but people though well if we make a stink maybe that can change. I think there was hope that the second film could be an even fight like the first film. While Dark of the Moon improved upon Revenge of the Fallen and I've heard that Age of Extinction improves upon Dark of the Moon it's just really hard for some people to ever recover from what they consider bad about Revenge of the Fallen. It's like my grandfather got sick from meatloaf in the Navy during World War II and he still can't bring himself to eat a mouthful of meatloaf even from the best cooks.
RotF is that woman you kinda regret sleeping with, but you'll still hang around for a crack at their sister. You just hope when she takes her bra off everything remains perky. RotF wasn't as perky as hoped/promised. I just wish things had been better planned between movies. Things should always be written with a follow-up in mind. Even scabby hookers will still make money. There'll always be a market for hookers of all quality ranges.
Funnily enough, I watched the first one the other night, at the wife's bequest no less, and matbe because of hanging around here for the past 7 or so years, I found myself picking at it way more then I ever have before. I wouldn't go so far as to call it awful per se, but certainly not as good as I remembered. I have to say, when I feel like watching a TF film, I generally reach for ROTF. Best analogy ever!
the second and third, i feel about the same for. but with the second one, there really isn't a lot going on in that movie. that is actually involving the transformers. a lot of really childish humor, effects it too. both the dark of the moon, and revenge of the fallen, both suffer greatly from that. they both suffer from the transformers being side characters in their own franchise. in the first one, they are the focus. even if we are learning about them FROM Sam's point of view. we are still focusing on them. in transformers 2 and 3, we get are not doing that. we are focusing on Sam. instead. at some point the movies forgot that they were characters, and not just props.
I understand that ROTF has a lot of problems, and that I wish they did something else with the story. But I have a soft spot for the film and I can still watch and enjoy it. I remember going into the cinema to watch it, I was so excited and engrossed in the film, I didn't notice the flaws. Honestly, I forgot seeing the twins when I watched the film in the cinema, the only part I remember seeing them is when Mudflap was getting sucked up by devastater!
Regarding the OP's point on Megatron dying conflicting with the potential for a sequel... I kind of feel Megatron had to die for the movie to come to a satisfying conclusion. Megatron was built up as a savage warlord who would stop at nothing, and could not even be stopped by Optimus alone. What could they have done to make it so Megatron go "Welp, OK, I give up, bye!" and just fly off and make it even remotely believable? Taking out the big bad gives a sense of completeness and closure to the movie as a singular piece. If there was not a sequel, it could have ended there and been satisfying. Plus, you knew that if there was a sequel they would definitely find a way to bring him back regardless, so it's not like it matters too much in the grand scheme of things.
