why KSI improved pseudo transformers end up being weaker than the real bots?

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  1. old autobot

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    "They are better than you" and bla bla, but Hound and BB ended up beating the crap out of them although being seriously outnumbered....do you think its just a plot problem, or that there is something in an alive transformer (the spark or whatever) that gives them the edge?
     
  2. autobot slapper

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    Humans always think they're better and what they make is "amazing".
     
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    KSI are boasting. Nothing can beat a true sentient Cybertronian warrior.
     
  4. IXoptimusIX

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    Their robots were not better if one of them got killed by HOUND"S HELMET
     
  5. jestermon

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    The vehicons weren't getting beat up when they were being controlled when Galvatron left is wen they seemed to not do it anymore to evade direct attack.

    The way they transform and can move around fast is superior to taking time to shift around like the normal Transformers.

    They could also spontaneously manifest new weapons too if they needed to.

    They did kill Hound too pretty good for mindless drones.
     
  6. MasterZero

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    For one thing, they're dumb. Galvatron's the only one with any actual intellect. And who survived this little battle?
     
  7. optimegatron

    optimegatron Not over, not finished.

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    bcz haz no sol.

    Seriously though, it's probably just that Transformium isn't as... resilient, I guess? As the actual metal they're made of. i.e. "I hate cheap knockoffs!"
     
  8. FanimusMaximus

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    "I hate cheap knockoffs"
     
  9. moylan55

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    Watching it today sure looked liked Bee was getting pummeled by Stinger before Prime shows up with the dinos and then Strafe saves Bee from falling to his death so he can continue and win the fight eventually
     
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    Galvatron and Stinger seem to be the only complete ones, and they were able to rival Prime and Bee one on one.

    The others seem to be freakish misformed prototypes like two headed Shockwave that are both weak and not very intelligent. Galvatron seems to be the only one with a geniune mind.
     
  11. Ring3r

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    Pretty much.

    Also, Galvatron and Stinger were specifically developed to go after Transformers - the others were mass produced military drones made for human warfare and police missions. They even said this in the film.
     
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    GALVATRON: I am better.

    OPTIMUS: At what?

    GALVATRON: Everything.
     
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    Joyce and KSI just had big fat egos, fed by the fact Attinger was hellbent on slaughtering the real ones like animals.

    And as said, Galvatron was the only one with real intellect, and Stinger was the only one besides him who was competent. Notice that Stinger seemed to have the upper hand until Strafe arrived.
     
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    It fell victim to Beast Machines Syndrome: Multiple armies controlled by a single mind. :lol 


    jD001
     
  15. ironjazz

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    What sounds better to you?
    Battle hardened warriors who have fought for centuries
    Or brand new dumb knock-offs?
     
  16. Sighphi

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    Didn't they say that they werent ready either?
     
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    no, they just needed bumblebee to deliver an epic beat down on the big screen so hasbro can have more bumblebees sold compared to the last 3 movies combined.

    because the world does not have enough bumblebee transformers.
    not at all....
     
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    I think they just have very low intelligence.
     
  19. Autobot Burnout

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    Except, y'know, high-heat SABOT rounds.

    Which they make a very big deal about in the first film because that's how they figure the means they ended up using to blast Skorponok's tail off.

    Or extremely cold temperatures.

    Which they make a very big deal about in the first film because that's how they capture Bumblebee and have been keeping Megatron in stasis after moving him from the arctic wasteland to Hoover Dam.

    Or Sideswipe easily slicing Sideways in half in ROTF.

    Or Bumblebee easily ripping out Ravage's spine.

    Or basically how anybody dies in DOTM from basically being one-shot by anything. Even Ironhide, who is a grizzled war veteran, takes only one rust-gun shot to the gut and he's instantly dead.
     
  20. Psychoshi

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    I figured that the KSI knockoff TFers would utterly annihilate the opposition, by simply partsforming into those tiny little pieces, and flying into the autobots' bodies, destroying them from the inside out.