Why can't Paramount say outright this is a reboot???

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  1. Autobot Burnout

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    This isn't the Japanese continuity where Animated is the prequel to the films according to Takara.
     
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    Yeah, the only sure thing with Paramount is that Paramount isn't sure 100% of what they want to do. :D  This is how I remember the timeline based off of what happened and what was said by the suits:

    AoE did gangbusters and was the first result of the writer's room and they felt confident enough in that performance that they laid out the groundwork for a prequel BB movie and a grand end with TF6. TF5/TLK did poorly compared to AoE and they fired the writer's room and said that post-BB movie, we weren't getting another TFs movie until at least 2021. But then the BB movie picked up a lot of positive buzz so now they're back to,"Well, it's a reboot" and,"It's not a reboot."

    Personally, I feel like they should've went ahead and used the BB movie goodwill to start over. I get why they don't want to do that because they'd be leaving the TF5 cliffhanger there unfinished but still.
     
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    Well, AoE was written by Kruger and happened before the Writers' Room was a thing.

    Funny enough, I think it likely was the Writers' Room as to why there was such a disconnect between AoE and TLK. RotF, even with the writers' strike, had an overlap of sorts with Ehren Kruger working on the script. There was no such overlap with Kruger and the Writers' Room. Plus, the writers said they got anything they wanted in the fifth movie, which is very different from Kruger it seems, as Bay had rejected any ideas for Unicron by Kruger previously.

    It's a perfect case of fans needing to be careful what they wish for. Did getting rid of Kruger result in better movies? No. In fact, I'd consider Kruger the best writer in the franchise as far as his work on these specific movies is concerned. Revenge of Fallen was much better as a finished product than it had any right to be. Dark of the Moon was about as good of a movie I'd as expect at following Revenge of the Fallen. Age of Extinction actually follows the OT very logically and was, realistically speaking, perhaps the best possible post-DotM movie there could have been given the baggage left by the first three. I rate all three first sequels very highly for what they are trying to be.

    Funny enough, I think there actually was plenty of stuff planned that the Writers' Room threw out or ignored. Its' revealed in the AoE Behind the Scenes that the Knightship came from a planet other than Cybertron, and Bay said that there would be things in the Knightship that would be explored in sequels.

    Plus, it was revealed in 2013 that one of the melee weapons that was later seen on the Knightship belonged to none other than Megatron. We see TLK Megatron with a new melee weapon, but the transition is never really shown.

    I think these things are likely just the tip of the iceberg as to what was ignored.
     
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    Yeah, the writers' room really made it clear that they didn't care about Transformers and saw their jobs as nothing more than a free paycheck from Paramount. They threw the baby out with the bathwater when they pooped out TLK and selectively ignored continuity with AOE. Hopefully everyone soon learns the lesson that Marvel learned a decade ago and movie adaptations get to be made by people who actually like the source material from now on. I mean, a guy can dream...
     
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    I don’t think you realized my comment was a joke
     
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    True-and the execs whom the writers were working under, signed off on what they turned in, with significant input from the Director & Producer. . .I share that dream you have. . .
     
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