Gc: The success is what makes this such a huge, lost opportunity. Based on the visuals and the concept, along with the public's lingering affinity for Transformers, these movies made huge amounts of money, despite their near-total and increasing lack of literary or cultural value. If they had had good writing and good direction and at least a few ideas worth taking home, they could have had a tremendous positive cultural impact. Imagine that the theme for these three movies really had been "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings", and this theme had been borne out clearly on screens all across the world, instead of being just a few parroted words? Now tell me there isn't a tragically missed opportunity here. And think of the impact on this fandom. Yes, we got bigger, and yes, Michael Bay failed to rename us all Trannies. Great. But if the movies had been actually good, as well as successful, this fandom could have gained so much legitimacy. Right now, the most public face of Transformers is the movie barbarism. It's made it more embarrassing to be a fan, unless you hide your earnestness (for things like Roberts' MTMTE) behind your irony. There, that's better.