why alot people complain scientist overpower

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  1. simonlaw16

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    scientist overpower???? um..... i dont think so
    for myself most the time killed me is destroyer > infiltrator > titan > scientist
    i use scientist all the time
    last week i play TDM convoy have one emeny guy (infiltrator)send me a message tell me "stop running , fight like a man"
    and i end up 17kill 10 ass 2 die
    after game he send me alot bad word message
    my question is most ppl fight alone in open area and just stay there doing nothing, for me and my team mate is= big target
    "stop running" mean??? im i need stay in ur face and let u kill me??? haha i dont think so
    we all know secientist have weakest armor and HP, he only have vehicle speed and fire power(middle and long range)
    close range fight is not good for scientist and we all know( i dont use sentry at all)
    when i play secientist , im not going solo for sure
    Neutron Assault Rifle too power?? yes..if enemy just stay on the gound doing nothing + shell down.. or they dont have full HP, or they got hit by more then 1 people at the same time
    Gear Shredder over power?? may be only work on small aera like a hall way, but on big aera all u need is dash to dodge 100% save; Gear Shredder need 3 hit to kill infiltrator and scientist, or if they charga up 3 gear all u need is jump and dash, is work 80% for me to dodge save; for me homing need -10% because they way to use Gear Shredder is should be same as play "pool table"
    marking pistol ? if u got hit once, u batter run fast to Energon cube
    Burst Rifle over power??? well, if u played halo, just the same thing
    jet rocket have same damage as Gear Shredder
    some people can use combo on scientist , mean they can kill titan in 3-4 sec
    but at the same time all class have all kind combo, not only scientist

    for my opinion some people rush in solo emeny base or team and rambo style, then say something about overpower is not right..-_-"
    i think the only overpower gun is destroyer Chaos-Rift Combuster + fast reload
    because that gun really can one or two hit in 2 sec kill everything
     
  2. HuffR_WFCTX_91135

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    It hurts.
     
  3. Prime Jetscream

    Prime Jetscream HE PULLS THE STRINGS AND HE MAKES THEM RING

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    So bad.
     
  4. Stryyder

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    Trukk not scienti.....

    Wait no.
     
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    Its the gear shredder its homing has been improved WAY to much.
     
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    Mechafire And now, they will fear you Moderator News Staff

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    They can't handle the science.
     
  7. Prime Jetscream

    Prime Jetscream HE PULLS THE STRINGS AND HE MAKES THEM RING

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    Except Titans... they have Perceptor parts.
     
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    You know for customization voices, it could have been that each class gets a catch phrase

    Scientists would probably be "GREAT SCOTT!!"
     
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    The Infiltrators have Wheeljack though.
     
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    because people are scientest overpower alot.

    And becuase the gearshredder is a bitch. And so is the Burst rifle.
     
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    Because game is bad. Nuff said.
     
  12. simonlaw16

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    gearshredder easy to dodge also burst rifle too, only need dash left or right

    but can u dodge Chaos-Rift Combuster , Riot Cannon , A4 Pulsar Cannon and EDK Techvolt ?

    now feel very bad for Infiltrator user -_-" hope they fix Nucleon Charge Rifle and Path Blaster (those gun need aim skill)
     
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    It's overpowered. Especially the gear shredder. It pisses me off so much.
     
  14. simonlaw16

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    u can dash the gear shredder easily
     
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    Scientists are perceived to be overpowered not because of one thing, but because of a combination of a lot of different things.

    First, the Gear Shredder. On it's own it isn't too bad. It does great damage, but the undeniable FACT is that it has too much homing. It's easy to dodge, you assume that EVERY engagement is 1v1, which, you're right...most often 1v1 I don't have a problem with the Gear Shredder. The problem is that when you're in a shoot out with a player and then a Gear Shredder comes in, it becomes extremely difficult to dodge and manage. The homing makes it so that as long as you fire in their general direction, you can score a hit, which is an absolute bitch. It takes literally no skill to fire into an existing firefight and pick up a kill. When I was still playing, I did this and racked up kills with disgusting ease.

    Scientist players like to harp about how little health they have. True, but as a person who played a lot of scientist myself, your mobility is goddamn intense. If you are not surviving when a fight goes wrong, then **YOU** the player have made a bad choice. There are hundreds of times where I had a feeling a fight was not going my way so I just dodged, jumped, transformed and got the hell out of there. Again, this is something you can do with ridiculous ease...you just have to make the right choice.

    That isn't such a bad thing, but the next is...the sentry. Simply put, the sentry does way too much damage. It's so good, that it's almost become universally used. With Battle Sentry, the damage becomes insane, and again, I've wrecked face with the Battle Sentry.

    Again, these three things alone, on their own aren't much of an issue...but when you combine the three together, that's when the whole picture starts to show. You like to talk about all the weaknesses of the Scientist, and yet you claim you can get 3:1 ratios every time you play...if that's the case then are the weaknesses really weaknesses at all? Hardly not. I'm a competitive gamer, and I like to think that I am pretty good at assessing balance. Afterall, my **LIFEBLOOD** in gaming revolves around assessing balance and how that affects the tournament metagame.

    As far as the Chaos Rift Combuster goes...it's easy as shit to dodge. I've seen Titans even dodge out of my kill zones to wreck me, and I've dodged out of a fair number of CRCs myself. It sounds like that people who don't know how to dodge it aren't aware of how it really works. I play it almost exlusively, and it sure as hell isn't a OP weapon. It's STRONG in many areas if you don't know how to deal with it, but it certainly isn't a weapon that dominates the metagame quite like how the scientist does.
     
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    Assuming I'm not the one behind said weaponry..... If I am, you're pretty much screwed.
     
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    I have seen the gear shredder turn at a 90 degree angle a lot I dont think dashing will help people arent even aiming with it and getting kills. Me for one when I was testing its power got 2 kills when I wasnt even aiming at the other person and it killed them.
     
  18. JoeHavok

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    I have to agree that the scientist is not overpowered, any more than some of the other classes. The Titan has a lot of advantages for example. Some of my highest kills per death ratios have been with a Titan. And someone else mentioned the Chaos Combuster with the Destroyer. The truth is some people have perfected only one class, but there are other classes that are equally strong as the scientist if used right. For anyone complaining the scientist is too overpowered just needs to play more with the other classes. Also, on certain maps specific classes tend to do better than the scientist. And if your playing as a team, you will do better than playing by yourself.
     
  19. Stryyder

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    The problem is that Titan and Destroyer are made as kill classes. Scientist is a support role character. Generally tagging a target with the orbital or defending from afar with the sentry or being the healer. Putting it in the same kill power range as the titan and destroyer is the definition of OP.
     
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    I don't see the problem at all. As far as I've ever seen the gear shredder is a pretty crappy weapon (at least, I've never had trouble with it?), the battle sentry is nice but then I'd rather keep my heal ray. Health isn't an issue as, has been said, you can just transform and get the hell outta dodge- I quite enjoy the ol' transform, fly away, return and strafe run tactic, though it makes me miss the campaign's jet machine guns.


    I really don't think there's an issue. Why should one class be so underpowered that it can be used for nothing more than a support role? Not everyone enjoys being a big lumbering tank or a car alt, but we don't all also want to just run around healing folks either.