who would be a better decepticon leader shockwave or starsceam

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  1. Tigertrack

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    Since Megatron appointed him as guard, leader, foreseer on Cybertron, there's no question it's Shockwave. He's got more, uh, well I can't find the word right now but he's more respected then Starscream. Nobody likes Starscream and you can't be a good leader if your surrounded by people who hate your dumb-ass.
     
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    this.

    Shockwave has proven plenty of times and through his numerous incarnations that he is immensely powerful, bot-handling Megs in the Marvel comic and in his own spotlight beating the Dynobots silly. He is cold and calculating and and plans things out to the letter FAR in advance. Heck even when his biggest weapon logic and planning failed him in his spotlight he was still able to shut down and like I said beat the Dynobots silly.
     
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    Sheesh, now all the Shockwave fans are comin out of the woodwork. Where were you guys when everyone was voting Soundwave and Dinobot? :lol 
     
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    They are polar opposites, whereas starscream is charismatic, forceful, pugnacious but not rational nor level headed, shockwave is the antithesis of that, no charisma, but level headed, logical, calm, cool and rational.
     
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    In comics Shockwave, in cartoon Starscream.
     
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    I'm a Shockwave fan, but I grew up on Beast Wars, and I root for the good guys. Plus, Dinobot IS Raptor Jesus.
     
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    shockwave is megatrons equal. so shocky.
     
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    I would have to go with Shockwave, because he is purple... What? He almost killed all the transformers...what they are all dead? Dear god...
     
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    But Starscream's even less competent in the cartoon than he is in the comic. At least in the comic he managed to take the Underbase and the Matrix.
     
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    At the end of the day they are both pretty flawed leaders. I'm going to have to say Shockwave though.

    Starscream would be to fearful of rebellion and the rise of another like himself to ever get anything done and would spend most of his time in hiding.

    Shockwave would just kill off any threats that arose and move on with his life only to be defeated be some character who doesn't operate using "logic" thus confounding Shockwave's efforts to quell them.

    Better leader, Shockwave. Longer lived leader, Starscream.
     
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    And what did Shockwave do, other than guarding the space bridge? Maybe I just forgot it, but I don't remember anything else that he did in the cartoon...
     
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    Kept control of Cybertron for the entire 4 million years Megatron and Starscream were knocked out
     
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    Shockwave.
     
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    lol, T-1000?
     
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    I still say the episode "Masquerade" shows that Starscream is actually smarter than Megatron, just not as powerful. Since Shockwave is pretty much a drone that does whatever Megatron says, he's not leadership material. Starscream for sure.
     
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    Definetly Shockwave. He's competent, powerful, and favored by Megatron. And doesn't have a huge ego like Starscream.

    He proved this in Animated especially, and in G1 he held down Cybertron for the Decepticons for all that time.
     
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    Shockwave- Doesn't logic dictate he a much more suitable leader than that pompous wingbag air commander.


    Starscream- Has no leadership skills, He was obliteraded at his own Coronation. Shockwave had kept Cybertron intact for over 4 million years as it Guardian.




    This kind of question is like asking who's better optimus prime vs sentinel. Everyone will say the same answer.
     
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    He had not much to do as all Autobots were on earth...
     
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    Shockwave, dude knows how to take care of business.