wheeljack really screwed over the autobots in season 2. he revealed in hurt that he spent his time on earth scouting decepticon mines. at any point did he report these mines to the other autobots. y'know because it really could have helped them. in hurt, he clears a mine of its guards and simple blows it up to get megatron's attention. he could have reported the mine to the autobots so they could grab some much needed energon before more cons arrived. wheeljack could have at least taken some with him. but we have already seen that he doesn't really see the big picture.

 

The Autobots will survive.

 

Wheeljack is a reckless asshole that prefers to shoot first then shoot again later.

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This is why Wheeljack wasn't apart of Team Prime. He isn't a team player. He does things HIS way.

Besides, Team Prime wasn't hurting for Energon at this point in the story. If that were the case, I'm sure he would have helped.

However, his info may come in handy sooner than we think. With the base and the Autobots supply of Energon gone, Wheeljack's knowledge of those locations will be even more useful now that they are on the run and without substances.

 

in my opinion, he isn't really an autobot. just because you are against the decepticons doesn't mean your an autobot

 

Are you saying Wheeljack isn't an Autobot? He clearly is, he wears their symbol fights their fight. What he isn't is one of Prime's team (yet).

 

im just saying, because your against one group doesn't mean you are wholey or really with the other group.

as for the symbol, isnt that what they all had, then the decepticon symbol was created. so he might have already had it.

 

He gives off an Autobot signature, which is why Ratchet was able to pick him up every time he popped on on the radar. Not only that, in the season finale, he told Ratchet that they were always on the same team. Wheeljack sees himself as an Autobot, just not a member of Prime's team.

 

I wish the Prime team did like a mini side series about Wheeljack's adventures.

 

Outside of not joining the team (of which there was no real reason besides him wanting to go lone wolf, which is an immensely stupid idea considering Wheeljack lacks any stable source of resources to maintain himself and the ship), there's move evidence Arcee is the one screwing over the Autobots on a more consistent basis than Wheeljack.

 

Just because Wheeljack drive things solely, doesn't mean he isn't an autobot.

Reasoned.

 

Which I feel can seem reasonably contradictory considering Optimus Prime is the leader of all of the Autobots, not just his little task force.

 

Optimus isn't Megatron; he doesn't force people to do what they don't want to. He gives them choice, just as he did Dredwing just before the season finale. Wheeljack is an Autobot by choice--he fights Decepticons and their way--and he chose not to be part of Team Prime. After returning Miko to the base, he said he wasn't yet ready to join the team, not in the state he was in.

 

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Don't think I really said Optimus would force anyone to do anything. Just stating that, in this continuity, Optimus isn't just a leader of a small group (ala Animated or BW/BM) but the leader of all who would call themselves Autobots.

Wheeljack is really operating more as a free agent in that regard. I don't think he would ever get in trouble or anything like that about it, but withholding vital strategic information such as the Decepticon mines from his acknowledged leader is still kinda not cool. Though, at the same time, I don't doubt that if he were asked, he would have given any information he had.

 

By stating that he's the leader of the Autobots, you're implying that all Autobots should follow him. Optimus doesn't force all Autobots to see things the way he does or to do what he says. He gives them a choice.

Wheeljack's free-agent-attitude nearly got him killed.

If he shared his knowledge with the Autobots, I think he would have given them the locations--he's on the side of the Autobots. He want's his side to win the war. He just likes doing things his way, the Wrecker way: commander-free.

 

I don't think we're exactly disagreeing here so much as having a semantics issue. Optimus is the last Prime and therefore the leader of the Autobots...it's not my statement or an opinion, that's just what his title and who he is.

Leadership styles can vary depending on who is the leader, but it doesn't change the title and what it represents. Optimus leads by example and provides strategy to his group. Megatron leads by "do it my way or I keel you". Which is a fundamental reason why the Decepticons will, even when they often have the stronger position, often end up losing out to the Autobots.

I think the thing with that is, the Wreckers are essentially non-existent at this point. Things that worked for him with a team that 'did its own thing' with the rest of the Autobot army fighting the main fight just doesn't work well when you have no team and there is no army. They could really capitalize on that this coming season and I hope they do.

 

Wheeljack might disagree on who's his leader  

 

To be fair, if they did phone him up and say: "Wheeljack, we're running low on supplies, anyway you could help?", he would point them in the right direction.

But unless they actively seek his help, like when Optimus asked him to hang out with Ratchet, he keeps to himself. It's just how he rolls, and Optimus respects his choice.