What's the deal with FOC Swindle's Size?

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by GAUGE, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. GAUGE

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    I mean he's literally bigger than almost all the other Combaticons, which really tends to offset him in a major way to the rest of the group. He even seems to be larger than Onslaught which is just insane. and when in combined mode his size really shows. As again, he's much more larger than Brawl even in leg mode, which seems to limit the posability. :( 

    Does anybody else notice it?

    I could swear he wasn't that huge in the game.

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  2. LadyStarscream

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    Yeah! I was wondering the same thing the other day.
     
  3. JacobPGalvatron

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    I'm pretty sure he's a scout in the game, so he's actually supposed to be the smallest out of them.
     
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    Swindle just knows where to get the good stuff these days :D 
     
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    I gave up caring about proper Transformer scale years ago. I noticed it and then I made Swindle as the right arm and Blast Off as the right leg.
     
  6. GAUGE

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    honestly it's not a scale thing to me as it's just Onslaught should be the largest Combaticon since he's supposed to form the bulk of Bruticus.

    and in the game Swindle is a bit smaller than Brawl.

    Blastoff ingame is only slightly larger than swindle

    ingame Onslaught is the largest with Vortex being the smallest.

    I just figured the toys would follow suit is all. Even the photos make Swindle look a little smaller but once i got all of them in hand. I noticed just how massive he was.
     
  7. PlanckEpoch

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    Blame mass shifting in the game. While in the game their 'bot and alt modes vary in size, by necessity their combined modes need to have similar lengths, otherwise your gestalt is totally out of proportion with itself. When you try to translate this into a toy, each limb needs to be relatively identical in size, and this is no more apparent than in the legs. Chances are Swindle is the big one because they couldn't get Brawl any bigger and still keep him as a proper leg and arm.
     
  8. SwindlesShop

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    hes not a scout in FOC btw
     
  9. oswaldCobblepot

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    He's actually in the same size class as Optimus and Onslaught.

    The reason he's the biggest robot-wise in toy form is just because of the way he transforms. It's as simple as that. It's not a big enough difference to bother me. They're all about the same size in-game, so as long as they're all about the same size as toys it doesn't matter to me whether one is ever so slightly taller than the others in robot mode.
     
  10. GaussGunner

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    Swindle are biggest transformer in the team!).And his in G1 leg "combine" mode.I wait ad-don kit for FOC B(F)ruticus, or voyager Onslaught+ hand and leg fix.
     
  11. NemiMonkey

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    To be fair the scale ingame is off for whatever reason. Although generally scale wise Onslaught is the largest if by only a slight margin. Brawl is next then swindle then either vortex or blastoff (they're roughly the same size being the "runts" of the group so take your pick).

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    Okay granted the first pic might be off because camera angle, but do you see my point about the scale being off scene to scene?

    Toywise he's only that large because he unfolds like a bloody accordion. Honestly I don't mind that much, but that's only because he was the runt toywise during G1
     
  12. Soundwinder

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    What bugs me is that Brawl is an adorable little tiny baby of a TF.

    I know people have been making jokes about Deluxes being Scout size for a while, but Brawl is the first time I've felt the need to comment on it.

    Plus, you know. He sucks.
     
  13. Onslaught24

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    1. which is exactly why Onslaught needs to be voyager, regardless of how the others scale with each other

    2. he's only bigger than brawl because A. Brawl's a bigger class than Swindle and B. Swindle's combiner port is more concealed and shorter than Brawl's

    you also have to take into account that Vortex and BO are squatting. and in the first pic, Swindle and Brawl are standing upright, whereas only Brawl continues to stand straight in the second
     
  14. NemiMonkey

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    I already knew that I was actually referring to differences in regards to swindle/onslaught/brawls height. It varies from the first pic where they seem almost on par to being noticeably different in the second.
     
  15. Onslaught24

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    Its his legs
     
  17. Soundwinder

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    No it's not, it's his torso.

    In an ideal world, his upper torso (the car hood) would lower further down to cover that freakishly long bit of lower torso (the black part).

    His legs aren't the issue at all, it's all in the torso.
     
  18. GAUGE

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    I have to agree with Onslaught24.

    I think if Onslaught had been a Voyager all along it wouldn't have been too big a deal.

    Though man...., Brawl lmao! wow, did he get the crap deal or what?. poor dude. :lol 
     
  19. LegendAntihero

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    He's not too big the other guys are just too small. :) Read the threads about Hasbro downsizing their deluxe class figures.