*Comes in to check the score*

 

The 30 year culture cycle, the 90's are coming.

 

I think G1 makes the most sense with Generations going (back) to “anything but G1”.

G1 can anchor a line. RiD can’t. I don’t think BW can past the core 12 or so characters. The problem is that nothing but G1 was maintained long enough to have monolithic, multigenerational support. Also, if Studio Series means a price hike for vehicle licensing, G1 is IMHO definitely the only one aside from Bayverse that can support that.

I maintain what makes sense IMHO is for 1984-86 G1 to “graduate” to Studio Series and then for Generations to become more of a new mashup continuity where Fire Convoy and Optimus Primal and motorcycle Prowl team up against Deathsaurus and Sideways. Like a much more cohesive, largely non-repaint take on Universe 1.0. (A few repaints might make sense like a SS G1 Sideswipe as Armada Wheeljack.)

 

doubtful. the people with dispoasble incomes are gonna be kids who grew up in the 80s for a while. 90s kids are gonna be stuck in entry level/shit paying jobs until the last of the Baby boomers die off or retire.

 

This thread seems to be confusing Studio Series, with Generations.

That being said, both Lines are similar, except Studio Series implies Movie Toys.

And Generations, the Current WFC line is just a retelling of G1, no new plot twist, heck Unicron will be released in time for the line to wrap up. Then what; they start G1 over again? Story Wise the next Trilogy will be Beast related.

My Wishlist includes, new Beast Wars Combiners, RID Gigatron, and Titan Class BW II Majin Zarak, or a Fort Max with Megatron Megabolt as the Head. Not just limited to one show / Continuity.

 

16 figures. 4 waves. That's a year's worth. SS can then move on to something else.

Wave 1:
Deluxe Transmetal Cheetor
Deluxe Transmetal Rattrap
Voyager Transmetal Optimus Primal
Leader Transmetal Depth Charge
Leader Transmetal Optimal Optimus

Wave 2:
Deluxe Transmetal Tarantulas
Deluxe Transmetal Ravage
Voyager Transmetal Megatron
Leader Transmetal Rampage

Wave 3:
Deluxe Fuzor Silverbolt
Deluxe Fuzor Quickstrike
Leader Transmetal 2 Tigerhawk

Wave 4:
Deluxe Transmetal 2 Cheetor
Deluxe Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia
Voyager Transmetal 2 Dinobot
Leader Transmetal 2 Megatron

 

A lot of repeated Characters. With exception to Optimus and Megatron we usually don't have repeats in a year. You also don't have any regular Beast Modes, just straight to Transmetals 1 & 2's, and Fuzors.

If anything this is proof Beast Wars needs to be the sequel line to War for Cybertron, called War for Earth; you need more than 1 year.

 

No. Some posters might not be "getting" it (though I've yet to see anyone miss the mark, but I haven't read every post) but the gist is plain as day. Studio Series is meant to be scale accurate as well as visually accurate to the CGI models, to the best of their abilities. People want that same course of action for other lines, such as Beast Wars.

Imagine a line of Beast Wars toys, we're talkin' Thrilling 30 Rattrap and Rhinox paired up with SS-level designs for a whole new, anniversary run of BW for the 25th or so. Imagine a Megatron, Primal, and Dinobot that are not only in scale with one another, but actually look like they stepped out of the screen into the palm of your hand and not like the previous figures that were good for the time but clearly not up to snuff in today's terms.

Also, Studio Series is technically Generations. Anything not Cyberverse or MP is basically Generations. That started with Age Of Extinction.

 

I won't derail the thread (as there is already a more suitable thread for such a discussion) but the reason I've not included the Season 1 bots in that wave breakdown is because those characters are already getting the best treatment available -- Masterpiece figures. Studio Series can't compete with that.

The MP and SS lines have similar goals, but MP will always be able to do the Season 1 figures far better than SS. There's no reason to double-up.

 

I voted Beast Wars, but I wouldn’t say no to Animated, as long as it had a new Shockwave with better articulation.

 

Not to mention it's a very Western-centric lineup. Nothing like that would ever get approved, because Takara would have no interest in selling it. Any Beast Wars line is going to include a few Japanese Beasts, Lio Convoy in particular.

Studio Series absolutely can compete with that, in two major areas: price and immediacy. We're going to be waiting another ten years for the full S1 Beast Wars cast to be done in Masterpiece, and they'll only be affordable to the most deep-pocketed among us. In Studio Series, they can be done in one year and not cost over a thousand dollars to complete the set.

 

IDW, imo is the best way to keep G1 fans happy, and also draw in new fans, because i dont think that many people will recognize BW characters and also the main selling point of TF is "robots turning into cars" and what better way of showing that than modernize the designs and alt modes, with some unique characters sprinkled in?

 

From my understanding, the main objectives of the SS line are screen accuracy and scale. People have complained about the beast-mode on MP Blackarachnia being short-changed to ensure the robot-mode was so good. If the MP line can't even do it, SS has absolutely no chance.

The Season 1 figures are incredibly difficult to recreate because of how much they cheated. The Transmetal, Fuzor and Transmetal 2 designs, however, are much more achievable.

 

Since we're already getting BW Masterpieces and we know TT is working on an Armada Prime (and who knows what else), I voted Animated.
The original toys are magnificent, durable and highly show accurate for the most part, there are a number of characters that I'd like to see redone. Not to mention the vast number of characters that never got a toy. Ideally they would adhere to the size of the original toyline but with toys getting these days that's a pipe-dream.

 

I voted Animated because there was one thing I always wished they did with that line, something we now know they can do-- cel shading. How great would it be to finally get Animated figures that look animated? I'd love seeing that!

Another thought I had was Hearts of Steel. Only 3rd parties have tackled that one, and sparsely. I've always believed a line of old timey vehicles would work really well for Transformers.

 

Are you trolling? We're literally already getting that with the War for Cybertron trilogy.

 

Oooohh... I was happy with my choice of Beast Wars, and then you had to go and put that image in my head...

 

Not really. WFC features plenty of post-86 characters and 5mm ports everywhere.

Take the 84-86 characters out of something like WFC. Put in their own line minus weaponizer compatibility and in media colors.

Take the opened up slots in the next WFC style thing and fill with a blend of post-86 characters and versions.

 

NONE OF THE ABOVE.

Robots in Disguise (2015), people. There are SO. MANY. AWESOME and INVENTIVE Decepticon designs from the show that NEVER got ANY toys (or only got a Legion class toy) and would be absolutely amazing as a fully articulated Transformer. Kickback, Glowstrike, Stockade, Ped, Terrashock, Polar Claw... I mean, you could go on. And on. AND ON. And a lot of them have built-in redecoes/remolds as well.

 

I was referring to the first statements that we need a G1 studio series, which WFC already is. And no, post '86 is still part of G1 with the Micromasters and Action Master partners. The only non-G1 figures I can name off the top of my head that have been in Siege are a few of the Battlemasters, Barricade, and Cybertron Optimus. Hot Shot was selects, so he doesn't count. The majority are still G1 characters. Same story with Earthrise so far.