What is your Transformers head canon? (G1-TFA & RB)

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  1. Sol Fury

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    My personal headcanon is that the 13th Prime is not Optimus. Rather it's a King Arthur figure called "the Arisen" (thanks, IDW) who is foretold to usher in a new golden age with his coming and bring about the next epoch in Cybertron's history... or, as the forbidden book the Codex Megatronus describes it, "a great upheaval and an end to all we know"

    My original intention was that Rodimus Prime would be the 13th Prime and the fulfillment of the prophecy, but as I've gone along I've upgraded it to the point it could be anyone or no-one. At some points in time it's Optimus, in others it's Rodimus, and in one timeline with a green grassy Cybertron, it's Optimus Primal.


    It is also worth saying in my mind the 13 Primes as a concept are alien, their morality and their reasoning is not what we'd typically understand and odds are outside of Alpha Trion and Alchemist Prime / Maccadam, they're all pretty much on a different level. Prima for example might be a complete Knight Templar obsessed with bringing all things to order - or rather his interpretation of it.


    A separate theory is that the Quintessons in the Movieverse are the same multiverse-judging aliens as in Cyberverse, and Quintessa was sent to monitor and judge the Movieverse. Quintessa was close with the Fallen, either as his lover or he was her favourite creation, and she's been manipulating everyone to first revive Fallen to his full strength (using Megatron and Sentinel Prime to seek the Allspark to revive him, then when Fallen died, seeking revenge on the entire human and Transformers races for his death). There is no movieverse Unicron, it's Quintessa activating Transformium deposits seeded beneath the Earth to trick the humans into destroying their own world and Cybertron with it.

    And if that's too convoluted, let me share a simplified version.

    There's no Movieverse Unicron. It's all a plot by Quintessa.


    Oh, and Starscream would have been resurrected using Nitro's headless body. The fact SS Thundercracker exists as a redeco of Nitro with a redesigned Starscream head is my witness.
     
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    Ratchet has a surprisingly high number of kills to haunt him because the Decepticons don't exactly abide by the Geneva Convention and underestimate him as a fighter, combined with his knowledge of anatomy and where to hit to make it hurt a lot. He also by extension helps ease the mortally wounded away, even the enemy, and has watched too many MTOs die after being alive for less than a week to not become a jaded old grouch.
     
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  3. QuintusTheExaltedOne

    QuintusTheExaltedOne Creator of the Quintessons and ex-Prime

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    I mean yeah that’s basically what happens in my ideal situation too. And regardless of whether past primes are reborn or not whoever currently possesses the matrix can commune with avatars of past primes. Kinda like sentient copies or fragments of those primes’ sparks.
     
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    G1 cartoon Optimus felt horrible survivor guilt after he was repaired and launched several fruitless missions to try to recover the other fallen Bots and either revive or properly bury them. (The mausoleum iirc was destroyed in Season 3)
     
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    A lot of folks seem to share the headcanon that Ratchet uses his medical knowledge to inflict pain on Decepticons "right where it hurts."

    I have a similar but different headcanon that he uses his expertise to neutralize opponents quickly and efficiently, rather than to maximize pain and suffering.
     
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  9. QuintusTheExaltedOne

    QuintusTheExaltedOne Creator of the Quintessons and ex-Prime

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    Feels more in line with who Ratchet is
     
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    • Surviving primes are capable of channeling the power of past primes
    • As opposed to his cartoon appearance- TR alpha trion represents his full power, channeling amalgamous's additional altmodes, onxy's beast features and micronus's binary bonding.
    • He is known as Sigma Trion
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    Is he on the grindset though?
     
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  12. QuintusTheExaltedOne

    QuintusTheExaltedOne Creator of the Quintessons and ex-Prime

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    Similar idea except I’d have the primes be able to take on a “mortal” form, where they appear weaker or smaller and blend in with society. “God” mode is their true form. So like imagine G1 Elderly Aloha Trion grabbing his cane and tapping it and in a flash of light transforms into the art from Titans Return Alpha Trion
     
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    Megatron has an idea to create body doubles of himself early on in the war only for it to be corrupted and changed overtime through Shockwave’s machinations into 4 cloned generals. The original plan was to confuse the autobots by having Megatron leading troops in multiple places simultaneously, while the real deal got down to the real mission. Shockwave’s Megatron Generals concept has several parallels to BW Megatron’s later vehicon generals. Through unknown means Shockwave seemingly stored Decepticon sparks from those who were long dead or unrecoverable for future use. Dreadwing, Kiloton, Terminus, and Skyquake’s sparks were retained in one of Shockwave’s many laboratories, and placed in genetically modified cloned Megatron bodies, creating Megaplex, Megaempress, Archforce, and Megastorm. I’m picturing like a kamino Bad Batch situation where Shockwave purposely altered four clones to be unique, potentially even adding in CNA of other unwitting donors. Megaempress shares design traits from Megatron, Pyra Magna, and even Elita-1. These cloned generals led large drone armies each based on their individual forms. Megaplex and Megaempress lead teams of air drones, while Archforce and Megastorm lead ground forces. Having drone legions full of vaguely Megatron like warriors muddles the battlefield even more, allowing Megatron to almost disappear into a battlefield. Megaplex retained the purest form of Megatron’s personality and mind, created from a copy of Megatron’s processor from before the war broke out. The rest are more ruthless and cold like current day Megatron. This leads to Megaplex, despite his fierce loyalty to Megatron, abandoning the cause after seeing how far his people had fallen, and how corrupted their purpose had become. He basically becomes a wandering warrior who while never wearing an autobot symbol fights the decepticons wherever he goes. So yeah he’s basically Nematron, Nemesis Tron, Nemesis Megatron? Nemeg? Idk. I also have the idea that Shockwave is consistently fucking with Megatron’s mental state, increasing his instability and manipulating him to go down darker and darker paths. Add Megatron’s genuine anger and a healthy dark energon addiction and corruption and you get a guy who once meant well turned into a villain. Megaplex represents an untarnished version of Megatron, which makes both Megatron and Megaplex uncomfortable. I have a redemption arc for my Megatron similar to IDW, but it’s a lil different. Megatron gets tired of the war and basically exiles himself. He quits dark energon cold turkey. Eventually the autobots find him and place him back in his original body, the one he was born with, which used to be a miner, then poet, then gladiator turned revolutionary. The autobots modified this original body and removed a lot of the miner components, as a gesture of genuine change in the way they do things. Unlike the comics where they pretended to give Megatron something to make him weak, in my take it’s a real thing, a dampener created to reduce his sparks output and also a device that wouldn’t allow dark energon to pass through his systems. So no steroids or enhancements allowed. No guns either. The last piece of the puzzle is Megaplex himself. He makes a plea with the heads of the trial and essentially commits suicide, merging his spark and memories with Megatron, in the hopes he would remember who he used to be, as well as allow him to see an unbiased view of the war outside his perspective. How his morals had corrupted and failed Cybertron over the years. What you end up with is a very sad old man who wishes they would’ve executed him. Instead they shove him with Rodimus, which makes him only wanna die more.
     
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    I like to consider TR Alpha Trion to actually be 'Alpha Trizer'. Or at least some version of him, if one doesn't feel like bothering too much with Beast Machines and its lore.
     
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    Westernized names for the Trainbots:

    Shouki: Devil Breaker

    Getsuei: Night Raider

    Kaen: Blaze Runner

    Seizan: Mountain Rider

    Suiken: Hydro Fist

    Yukikaze: Snow Storm

    Raiden: Thunderbolt Maximus
     
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    Don't be silly, murricans toys can't use Devil in a name.
     
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    G1 alpha trion is canonically flanked by women at all times, created some of the most important autobots ever , and (with the key of vector sigma) is one of the few transformers capable of reproducing.
    There are no coincidences, my friend.
     
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    Applejacktimus Still see the Sunshine

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    He's literally holding his pimp cane in that image right there.
     
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  19. Sol Fury

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    Based on this post on Facebook about that new camera Optimus Prime, my new headcanon is there's a timeline out there where Optimus Prime sold out and became all about the merchandising opportunities. If you've got enough money, he'll turn into whatever product you're selling - be it a pen, a camera, a baseball cap or even a shoe! Pay him well enough and he'll sign up the other Autobots or his business partner, Megs "MegaMoney" Tronus.
     
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    And let's not forget his most iconic promotion...

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