What If The Dinobots AREN'T Cybertronian?

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  1. agent j 15

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    Side note-Chrome doesn't recognize "Dinobot's" and instead suggests "Dingbat's". That is hilarious. NAO

    Assuming the organic looking Wolf, along with Lockdown's Bitchmob (this is their official name now btw), are different species from Cybertronians, whose to say the Dinobots aren't a different, albeit very similar, species as well? It'd actually explain a good bit-why all their robot heads are fairly simple compared to the other bots, why they turn into animals instead (the only animal TF's before had no robot mode) of vehicles...it wouldn't surprise me. And technically, the Dinobots of G1 were made by Wheeljack, technically no species at all, so there's technically no inaccuracy.

    This is just a late night discussion piece, I pretty much pulled this topic out of my ass, so...yeah.
     
  2. Ring3r

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    They've got cybertronian engravings on their armor, same as the others.
     
  3. jle1076

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    He said in an interview they were like a special ops force sent to earth long ago so they were very early transformers, maybe before the primes as a sub species of bigger yet simpler species
     
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    I'm thinking they're a pre-autobot/decepticon cybertronian species. Like the tfp predacons
     
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    There's Cybertronian hieroglyphs on their armor. That's enough proof right there that they're Cybertronians.
     
  6. Timothy.R

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    yeah, i definitely think they're cybertronian.

    and even though wheeljack built the dinobots.. they were still built by a cybertronian using cybertronian supplies, so, i still consider the G1 dinobots cybertronian.

    sort of like if a human made something on the moon.. i'd still consider it man man using human technology.
     
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    Um... have you not noticed that the Autobots and Decepticons don't even share the same type of head designs? The Autobots have more humanoid looking faces with the exception of Bumblebee who doesn't even really have a face. The Decepticons on the other hand all have very insectoid looking heads with the exception of Soundwave and Shockwave who still retain a similar look to their G1 Name sakes. This was actually one of the biggest complaints back when we first saw the designs for the 2007 movie is that the Autobots and Decepticons look so different from each other they don't even look like they're from the same planet. This being said, the fact that the Dinobots have very simple looking head designs is not in any way an indication that they're from a different planet.

    On a side note... While other Beastformers have not had robot modes in the actual films they have had them in the toy line. Though Laserbeak actually did have a robot mode in the movie and not in the toy line. (Remember the Pink Bumblebee?) Anyway... Scorponok's deluxe toy had a robot mode. It was really simple in transformation even by his standards. Mainly due to the fact that they never even bothered to design a robot head for this one and instead it just uses the beast head in robot mode. Considering how the Decepticons look in the movies it actually isn't a big deal that he doesn't have a separate head for robot mode. The second film also had the Insecticon in the toy line which in the film was the size of an actual insect and didn't transform but in the toy line had a robot mode. This being said, we don't even really know if the Dinobots will actually transform in the movie. I haven't seen all the trailers but every one I have seen with the Dinobots they've always been in beast mode. So it's possible that their robot modes are entirely made up for the toy line and don't actually exist in the movie. It would be stupid if they didn't transform but it's Micheal Bay. Every other version of the Insecticons actually transformed and weren't tiny little spy drones but that didn't stop him from changing that in the movie. You really think that just because every other version of the Dinobots had robot modes that Micheal Bay's will? Unless there's a trailer I haven't seen which shows the robot modes or someone has seen the movie to confirm it I wouldn't get my expectations too high.
     
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    They're all Cybertronians
     
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    I'm sorry to completely shatter your theory but you should watch this:

    TRANSFORMERS: AGE OF EXTINCTION - Official "Dinobots" TV Spot #14 (2014) [HD] - YouTube

    Grimlock and Slug transform.
     
  10. Scorpio

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    Their is a possibility that they are not Cybertronian and simply were given the markings via Lockdown when originally captured/created by the Cyberforming process - possibly as a way of 'tagging' them so he can track them whenever they are online.

    This would explain how the opening scene is apparently their 'evolution' which is believed to be the Cyberforming scene set with the Dinosaurs in the past.
     
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    I could see how the cyber-forming could turn the organic dinosaurs into Cyber-saurs, but the only part that doesn't make sense is how does that give the dinosaur a huge robot warrior mode?
     
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    Could be a part of the process....maybe the cyber forming mutates the matter it engulfs and as a result it grows.....maybe cybertron was a similar sized and inhabited planet to earth with life forms similar to us on it however it could have been cyberformed and expanded in size as well as its inhabitants also grew in size to become transformers??? And maybe that's what's happening with the dinosaurs on earth as those ships are far to low to the ground to be destroying earth.
     
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    Mmh, given Strafe we could go under the potential assumption that the Cyber-matter exposure resulted in the creatures affected by it gaining the ability to Transform or potentially jump-starting the evolution of some creatures to their max potential.

    The wolves we saw could have been normal wolves on Earth that were given Cyber-Matter and thus evolved to their max potential.

    Just trying to think of a theory/solution to the Strafe situation - as their needs to be something in their alt-mode scanning that resulted in an error and the only way that would happen would be if they scanned inaccurate remains. Easiest solution that comes to mind would be that they scanned inaccurate fossils of Dinosaurs - caused by the Cyber-forming process and/or were born from the Cyber-matter
     
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    Maybe the dinobots scan a robot mode instead and THAT is their alt mode.....so they are not robots that transform into beasts....but beasts that transform into robots!!??
     
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    Interesting perspective... could potentially explain it. Maybe they don't even have robot modes until Optimus revives or awakens them with the magical item for this film 'The Key' or 'The Matrix' and they immediately scan modes... but alas probably best waiting for more information from the trailers or clips or film.
     
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    Ok dude, STOP! Lockdown is not going to give them Cybertronain symbols all over their bodies or even Autobot logos as Slug has. That's just not going to happen. (If) lockdown had any if them captive and put some tracking logo or writing on them, I'm sure it would be one specific type and not "oh let me take my time and write all these very intricate glyphs all down strafe's teeth." Or "Hold still Grimlock so I can bling out your horns and jaw for you with this cool writing." Yeah not happening bud.
     
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    I don't see why Livestock branding is so unlikely a situation to occur... especially considering Lockdown is a bounty hunter - and marking captured animals/transformers would be his way of showing his prize. Similar to how some killers carve their initials into their victims as a way of showing off OR how farmers brand their animals.

    I mean it doesn't make sense for any Cybertronian to automatically be born with Cybertronian symbols anyway, so they must gain them through some other means. Meaning regardless of whether they are Cybertronian or not - at some point in Strafe's life someone tattooed the Cybertronian symbols onto his teeth (If he does indeed have the symbols on his teeth)

    I always went under the belief that the markings were personally added by the Cybertronian or Transformer as they grew anyway - it wouldn't make much sense for Starscream to have just grown his Cybertronian tattoo's during ROTF for example.

    Same situation applies to every Transformer in the bay-verse, they cant be born with an ancient language written all over them from birth as that would not make sense. Its like being born nowadays with tattoo's all over your body from birth - it just wouldn't make any logical sense to be born with writing on you...

    So they must have acquired it somehow through their life - which leads me back to it being done by Lockdown as a way of branding them. The other options all stem from this also - they would have gained the symbols written on them during their life via someone tattooing it onto them.
     
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    They're all Cybertronian. They have Cybertronian lettering on their armour and have supposedly been around before humankind existed so cannot be man made. Oh and they transform if you didn't know. I think there is only one planet with transforming robots that have their own language.?

    On another note it could be a possibility that they're 'cyber formed' dinosaurs that gain everything Cybertronian. :) 
     
  19. mrprime95

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    They TRANSFORM dude, trust me they are CYBERTRONIAN. Even if they didn't transform, they would be cybertronian, because they are autobots (sub-group). And no i'm not implying that only autobots are cybertronian.
     
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    there's no maximum potential, evolution doesn't work like that, it is continual