What happened before All Hail Megatron?

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  1. GeoSociety

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    AHM is probably my favorite TF comic, but it still leaves me confused about how the Autobots got in a near death situation with Prime in critical condition. I get that it was supposed to be the "soft reboot" for readers to get into the IDW-verse at the time, but it still brings confusion to the table.

    All the answers online just say "It's a year after Maximum Dinobots" but what I mean is:
    Sunstreaker reveals that he betrayed the Autobots with the aid of Starscream, and the Decepticons used Devastator to ambush the Autobots which exiled them to Cybertron leaving Prime wounded.

    But yet even with this reveal it's still weary, are there any official comics that show what entirely happened in the Canyon instead of the small panel flashback?
     
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    Nope. It was all just “explained” in that exposition.
    You are correct, this was a soft reboot. But everything that “happened” after Max Dino’s happened off screen.
     
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    Damn that sucks then, they could've made that into a spotlight comic for Sunstreaker. One can only dream.
     
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    I remember people gushing over AHM simply because the characters were drawn to sorta look like their MP toys.

    Conceptually it was an interesting take. The execution left a lot to be desired. It didn't help that it threw out all the infiltration protocols for cheap explosions.
     
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    IDW really could of worked a lot better at bridging the Furman-verse with AHM. I really don’t understand (a lot) of their decisions.
     
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    I think they could only have written it after the series ended, because it is very well possible that Sunstreaker being the traitor was not the initial plan, but an attempt to connect the AHM storyline more to the Furman era.

    The whole situation and the dialogue preceeding the "revelation" makes it unlikely that Sunstreaker really is the one who sold them out. Considering that the Cons got codes that could shut down all Autobot defenses means that they got those codes from a very high ranking Autobot. Very high. Sunstreaker was a drill sergeant and a soldier in Prowl's unit. And even if Sunstreaker was also a unit commander (and note, we only have the memories of the egomaniac himself to confirm that he was, while his very personality and previous portrayel says otherwise), there's no way that a Unit Commander would have such far reaching codes. It would be like a simple captain of a Naval vessel having command codes that could shut down the entire USA army.

    (My guess is still Jazz: he's very high ranking and as Special Ops he would have those kind of codes. Actually, only Optimus, Prowl and Jazz would be likely to have codes that could affect such a shutdown of all Autobot security systems.)


    But fans (rightly so) complained that AHM ignored all continuity from the Furman era and thus in the second half of the series a few things were added to confirm that it was the same continuity. And I think Sunstreaker being the traitor is one of those elements since it tied it with his fate in the Furman era.
     
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    This is an interesting take that would have made AHM more enjoyable to me. Jazz or Prowl or someone like that making it look like it was Mirage who betrayed them only to double bluff and set up Sunstreaker while all the time engineering everything. It would have been a truly brave take on the story.
     
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    It was explained that the codes to shut down the autobots were actually obtained by hacking into the cybertronian parts in Hunter's body - so even if Sunny didn't have the codes themselves, the link between he and hunter was used to access the codes. Sunny was only part of - and aware of - the canyon ambush, he had no idea of the galaxy wide coordinated attack.
     
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    Sunstreaker was just betraying Earth. The Decepticons used Bombshell to hack into Hunter's body and mind, using the headmaster tech in him to basically backdoor themselves into the Autobot main hub, possibly using Sunstreaker's codes to get their foot in the door, and from there, were able to establish a galactic-wide shutdown of all Autobot systems, resulting in 'The Purge', a complete abandonment of the infiltration protocols in favour of mass genocide. With each Autobot group cut off, they were easy pickings for the Decepticons.

    Or that was the theory. Given how many characters survived, I question just how effective this purge was. Prime was in critical because he was at the centre of a space bridge explosion he triggered to cut off his Autobots from the Decepticons, giving them some escape. I think one of the AHM coda issues had Sunstreaker reflecting on his life and how he got to that point when he was lying dead on the bottom of the canyon, but there's some retcons in it (or possibly unreliable narrative is at play?) but nothing major is shown about the initial canyon ambush.