Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by BScorpinok75, Aug 9, 2015.
You know what?I agree into that. How were the guardians handled though?
Well I always thought they would have had roughly the same simulated intelligence as any of the other robots just that they were more tightly controlled by the Quints and not activated unless needed
So unlike the consumer Bots they didn't have the times to learn from each other and to organize and be part of the revolution
After the quints were driven off the planet the Guardians were liky Reawakend and made to understand the events that drove the Quints off world
Being so much fewer in numbers they were probably assigned to different parts of the planet or maybe even the moons to protect against the possibility of the Quints returning
They were likely still doing the same when the wars broke out and the few that survived we're probably given the ability to transform near around the second war when it was developed
Now I pretty much come to this conclusion in spite that most people think that'll omega. Supreme was a very special case......... don't get me wrong Omega is one of my all-time favorite characters but I don't find any evidence to believe he was inherently all that different from the other Guardians
If you recall in the secret of Omega Supreme at the start of the flashback Omega is being attended to by a doctor or a medic apparently getting his yearly physical of sorts, at one point the doctor goes on to tell him that he is as healthy as any other Guardian robot he's ever attended to
To me that gave me the impression that he wasn't any different then other Guardian robots of the time
Any guesses on alt modes for these four Camiens...Proxima looks a bit Perceptor-ish in body style...she could have a more alien looking version of his same alt I suppose...
The first one has a jetmode
The second is a satelite with an orbit-to-surface laser for executing heretic Camiens.
The third is a prisnocynomat. You know, for tomafaring prisnoquals.
The fourth one is sexy racecar.
Grrr Velocity, come and drive in my lane you hot thang.
I always used to think Krok Turned into a UFO but now I think it was some kind of boat or submarine looking at his vehicle details. (As much as I love the Titans Return figure - I don't believe he was ever a crocodile himself despite the name. It would be like assuming Action Master Bumblebee used to turn into a bee)
Anode is a glider IIRC.
I think I'm officially repurposing Gerations Blurr (Drift remold) as Velocity.
Dude! That works really well! Guess I'm no longer trying to sell my gen blurr.
Imo Proxima looks like a satellite. She has those panels on her "wings" on the back there. Roadmaster looks like a gnarlier Roadbuster. Javelin def looks jettish, but I also get a RID Fracture vibe so a hovercycle is possible. I imagine Velocity turns into Cybertron Megatron's Batmobile dragster mode or something very similar.
What do you guys think the Badgeless from RID turn into? Do they have their original alt-modes or one uniform one?
The Badgeless wear armour that utilises holomatter to conceal their real identities and make them all look the same, so they retain their original alt-modes.
Thanks, morbidly depressed Magnus!
Sorry for bringing up an old thread but was doing some research into Cyberton's moons and found this thread really interesting.
I thought the first of the 2 wars didn't start with anyone in control. The Quints had been evicted but the Autobots could manage the Guardians through the Coda Remote.
Then the Military Hardware (including Decepticons) overpower the Autobots and the Guardian Robots. Just my head canon, but maybe the Guardians were just lying idle on the ground (a bit like the one in War Dawn) and were not reprogrammed for the Military Hardware. They probably thought they had crushed the Autobots and thus had little need for the Guardians at that stage.
Then the Autobots rise again and can transform they defeat the Military Hardware and revive the Guardians who are all similar to Omega Supreme in terms of sentience.
For what its worth, I don't think Alpha Trion ever had an Alt-Mode (as he could not operate on himself and no-one else had as much skill as he had.
I agree with this.
I think a cybertronian jet for Lancer and a cybertronian jeep for Greenlight.
I cant say anything on the matter because we simply dont know anything for a fact. The only thing we know is that after the rebillion they lived for a time in peace (pressumably without any dichotomy). Then (according to the autobots that is), the decepticons started the wars. If this is true or accurate we dont know, because this is the only info we have and is only one sided. Pressumably the guardians were indeed reprogrammed to defend Cybertron.
I'm pretty sure Alex Milne is the type to design a transformer with a specific alt mode in mind (and probably a rough conversion scheme). I'd say he has an alt mode in mind for all of them, and probably some rough sketches. Not sure if he's ever shared them though. I might ask him on twitter some time.
I think there's enough kibble (and the names) to figure it out roughly though. Roadmaster is clearly a burly off-road vehicle, possibly 6-wheeled. Velocity is a sleek sports car, or maybe something akin to a F1 race car. I would not be shocked if Javelin turned into a... well... javelin, or at least some other type of bladed weapon. Proxima is the hardest, but I think the idea of some sort of Perceptor-analog research/observation unit makes sense.
I know from a 2-minute history lesson in FFOD is hard to make an accurate assessment. But I think that the Military Hardware/Decepticons did nothing meaningful with the Guardians when they had the Military Ascendancy or Control of Cybertron. This is because I think it would be too much for the Autobots to defeat their enemies including the guardian robots with only transformation as their key advantage (unless they came up with a device similar to what affected Devastator in 'Ther Core' episode to counteract the guardians).
On Omega's alt-mode I think he was given arms by the Autobots in peacetime (as were other guardians) that could be used as rockets so that he could quickly get to places that were being attacked. The rocket capability can also be used as an escape mechanism. I also think that Alt-Mode means Omega and the other guardian use less energy than standing up all day in their robot modes.
Either that or the coda remote could not be overriden. Or the Decepticons couldnt find out how to, hence they didnt use them.
Regarding Omegas transformation: Your guess is as good as mine.
Maybe the Decepticons at that time were not as smart as Megatron (or their technology was fairly dated). I am thinking of the RoboSmasher and the Headless Guardian in War Dawn.
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