biggest gripe?


DEFINATELY THE STOCK FOOTAGE. just so....so much....it was so unneeded, plus it took up so much time. I'm so glad in these new Cybertron episodes they've tackled this problem, and added additional dialogue, it makes all the difference.


Another big gripe is the Decepticons, it seems in all these Japanese derived TF series (Car Robots, Micron, Superlink, Galaxy) that there's only two 'bad' Decepticons, and the rest are entirely stupid.

Car Robots/RiD
Megatron, Scourge (and i suppose Ruination) - actually evil
everyone else - nutters

Micron/Armada -
Megatron, Starscream, Thrust (at first)
Cyclonus, Demolishor - comic relief
Tidal Wave, Wheeljack - start off all big and evil, quickly become nothing important.

Superlink/Energon
Megatron, Shockblast - same as always
Starscream - had strength, supposedly, but no character
Snowcat, Demolishor, Mirage - same as Armada

Cybertron
Megatron, Starscream (again, just these two seem to have any real strength)
Thundercracker - mainly cannon fodder, although he has shown he can put up a bit of a fight at times
Thunderblast, Crumplezone, Ransack - comic relief.
Mudflap - just a confused autobot.


even though G1 and BW had comic-relief in Decepticons, they still had a stronger sense of 'evil' throughout the troops.

 

I am still enjoying the series (haven't finished watching them), so far I like it except for;

TFs looking kind of too smooth. I can't explain this well, but I mean, sometimes I thought they looked waxlike. I am not a fan of CG anyway, but I agree with some other people that it was much better than SL.

And I wish there was more roughness. I don't say I want gore, but sometimes I got embarassed because it was so cheesy.

 

Stock footage, however this is understandable as the quality beat quantity.
The music seemed a little exagerated at times, for example that really really sad piano music would go off when some one said sorry... or something, it seemed a little cheesey.

 

Hmm, I guess I am really in the minority here, but I feel the spedia arc allowed for alot of early character growth. The lack of changing location allowed us to focus more on characters and less on where they were. The whole Fast Aid/Exillion odd couple, Nitro Convoy's intolerance of anyone who cannot beat him in a race, alot of great stuff. We also only really say Master Megatrons car mode on speedia and on cybertron briefly, the rest of the time he used his jet mode.

What I hated was the lack of a proper population on Gigalonia, and the lack of depth on the whole Planet X part.

What I wish they had done is stretched the series over two years, and had the first 52 episodes end with Starscream getting the Chip square.

Then for the second season of 52 episodes add more Gigalonia and Planet X stuff. Perhaps have the Gigalonia Planet force have been lost in the war, so the only way to find it is to go back in time eaons, thus Vector Prime does that for the sake of the team and dies. So they get caught up in the war, leaving the cons in the future and out of the storyline for a while. Let them encounter Soundwave and Noisemaze in the past, change the timeline, and restore Gigalonia by preventing the destruction.

With the Gigalonia Planet Force from the past in hand, they use vector Prime's map to contact him, and his past self sends them back to the future. As they leave for the future, Vector Prime encounters the three minicons moments later.

Then fill in with the normal post Gigalonia episodes.

But hey, that is just my oppinion. I think it GF was almost as good as Beast Wars, and definately the second best of any series I have watched yet.

 

Think that's mainly it, would've liked to known more on Soundwave & Noisemaze. (even I still plan to get Soundwave when he hits US, just pray they don't go cheap on him)

I tink that's mainly it, I guess bashing the dub wouldn't count as a dislike would it? Okay another, its one I liked and I also disliked, how they wrote Bud not knowing he'd never see Vector Prime again, too well written and emotional.

 

(The whole Fast Aid/Exillion odd couple, Nitro Convoy's intolerance of anyone who cannot beat him in a race, alot of great stuff.)

Well said! I watched all 20 first episodes in one go...(thats all Ive seen so far!)LOL
so it didnt drag it along too much for me( probly felt like forever for u guys!!) haha!
and it was quite enjoyable watch tfs racing...very rare! p

I mean who on earth watches car racing anyway??? lol

 

Maybe that is it, I watched the first half of the series in one go as well. Perhaps watching them in rapid succession really makes the speedia arc better.

 

I would've like to seen more of X of course, but by the time we got that far the series was almost over, so they did what they could.

 

It's not GF, but I feel I should step in here. I realize they weren't very prominent, but they significantly played Mega Octane, Armorhide, Rollbar, Ro-Tor, and Movor up for laughs, and they ARE a significant portion of the Decepticon cast.

 

I haven't actually watched the Japanese versions of the new TF shows, but this pretty much aplies to them all on a concept standpoint.

I wish they'd stop making them more and more like super robots. If they want super robots, start the Brave series up again. TF is supposed to be at least slightly more realistic than a super robot show. Armada was ok in that respect. Energon started getting that way with Megatrons crazy Unicron powers. Cybertron is loaded with super robot stuff. Get rid of the magic super powers and just give em friggin guns and swords.

 

Faction swiches were too abrupt. You shouldn't have a character defecting in the space of an episode. It should be gradual.

 

Being a Gonzo project... I was hoping it would have been more cinimatic. I did like how the end product turned out, but it played a bit flat. Thinking back, the best scene wasn't even part of the show. It was just test footage of Starscream, the one with him being chased by missles, then tfs into bot mode and falls through the sky... then tfs again and flies off into the distance. I really wanted to see more shots of that quality of action and planning.... cool and beautiful at the same time.

 

I like Galaxy Force for what it is, a Japanese written and produced Transformers show. I dislike just about everything Hasbro has done with it, from the clumsey edits and translations to the inept attempt to make the series a continuation of Energon.

 

I think some of the pacing was one of the biggest problems. Too much time with endless racing on speedia (I really stopped paying attention at one point) and not enough time with planet X and other stuff later on.

I think they also under used the 3rd faction concept. Starscream should have had more characters working for him than just Noisemaze, and for that matter Megatron could have used a few more guys as well. I know good guys sell better, but does it really need to be 2:1?

Starscream's crown. The only time he seemed like any kind of king or whatever was when he had all the swarms of bots on Earth, and he wasn't even giant-sized yet.

The over-toy accurate animation models, specifically the back of Galaxy Convoy's head. Why the hell did they animate the level that the toy uses for the mouth plate? C'mon, use some artistic lisence once in a while.

 

Like almost everyone else I disliked the length of the speedia arc, talk about overkill. Not enough time was spent on Planet X or King Starscream its like he get a uber power up is defeated and then we rarely see him again, there should have been more permanent casualties.

I Hope there's are seperate OVAs to finish off the Starscream and Planet X stories.

 

The problems started when the only people who ever actually talked to the show producers were Takara's marketing goons. Y'know, the ones who failed to grasp what's so special about Transformers for the past 20 years.

The redundant stock transformation/special attacks were beyond annoying. In some episodes I felt as if the dialogue was only there to bridge the gap between one stock sequence and the next one.

Battles were rarely spectacular. Too much stock footage (again!), and then the supposedly "epic" battles between Galaxy Convoy and Master Megatron/Galvatron usually only consisted of both charging towards each other, their fists colliding in mid-air and then getting blown apart by a giant explosion that occurred for no apparent reason.

Story-wise, the show suffered from too much bad pacing. The only time the show was REALLY great was between ca. episode 20-26, when Starscream freed the Earth Destrons and then made his way through all the Cybertrons to get the Chip Square.

And then he spent six episodes standing around and glowing. Meanwhile, it took the Cybertrons two full episodes to get inside his base. And then Starscream went giant and lost everything that made him cool.

The whole "hopping around on Primus" bit and the Gigalonia arc weren't much better.

Too many cuts back and forth. Instead of telling one story per episode, the show told multiple stories in several episodes, but as a consequence, each individual episode suffered from the lack of not-much-happening.

Plot points being completely forgotten. Chromia kept switching her allegiance so often, even the writers got confused eventually.

Plot points indicating a severe lack of planning in advance. Atlantis blows up, and then it's still in one piece, still has an atmosphere and can even travel through space again 15 episodes later.

The revelation of Soundwave's and Noisemaze's background story makes no sense at all. What was their reason for coming to Earth in the first place? Why did they try to set Cybertrons and Destrons fighting each other, if all they wanted was revenge on Gigalonia? And WHY DID NOISEMAZE TRY TO EXTRACT THE POSITION OF GIGALONIA FROM HOP'S MEMORY WHEN HE KNEW WHERE THE PLANET WAS ALL THE TIME?

Characters being built up and then quickly forgotten. As soon as we knew what Franklin's true motivation was, he became Monitor Guy. Autovolt was cool for maybe half an episode before he became generic background guy #7. Life Convoy was the protector of the Earth Planet Force and had a shared history with Franklin. After that was revealed, he became generic background guy #8. Roadstorm. Demolishor. Terashaver. Dinoshout. SOUNDWAVE. Who WERE these guys?

The lack of any significant population on Animatros and Gigalonia. For an evil dictator, you almost got the impression that Flame Convoy oppressed four guys, two of which were even serving him.

The Rambles. Where did they come from? What was their purpose? They were forgotten as quickly as they were introduced, and the only time they would play any significant part again was when Coby built his "Coby Ramble".

Chromia. ARGH. Stupid stereotype valley girl character in robot form. I HATE that b****.

Utterly anticlimatic resolution. So Primus finally gets the Chip Square with all four Planet Forces attached, fires ONE SHOT at the black hole, and THAT'S IT? Geez.

Don't get me wrong, Galaxy Force had its moments (the "Starscream reveals his true face" arc up until "Starscream starts glowing", the last two episodes), but all in all, the show was still severely messed up. I'm glad for the US dub to make those boring plots at least somewhat entertaining.

 

- Master Megatron/Galvatron smirking. I swear, his face was permanently stuck like that.

- Fist punching. Outside of giant robots, who actually fights like that. Fist punching really hurts.

 

Sorry for the short gripe without a fuller explanation, but basically frozenred summed it up--Galaxy Force could have been more richer storywise if it actually did have some links intertwined within the show. And I for one, personally would've liked to see what happened to the original cast. For example, what happened to Rodimus Convoy, why the heck did Hotshot revert back to a naive "teen" when he seemed much more mature in Superlink, etc, etc.

I understand that GF was not intended to be a sequel to Micron Legend/Superlink due to Gonzo's wishes (and perhaps fiscal concerns of the previous series), but I felt that some potential was missed there in terms of story.

And yes, I'm tired of the Convoy vs. Megatron/Galvatron duels...though I'm contentful that Master Galvatron "died" in the end, as that event would hopefully make a nice ending to the U.S.'s version of the Armada/Energon/Cybertron trilogy.

 

I give up! whos this gonzo guy? director? sounds like a porn star! first or last name?? lol