WFC Siege Brunt

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  1. smf2045

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    Brunt is tricky to work with.

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    His parts seem more specialized than the other weaponizers.

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    Glad that we got him, though. Trypticon feels more complete, even if Brunt's interactions with him leave a little bit to be desired.

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    His interactions with other Decepticons are interesting.

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    The combinations can get weird pretty fast.

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    I think Brunt is not as good as Sixgun or even Cog, but I'm still thankful that we got him. I've bought three Brunts thus far since he's the only Decepticon Weaponizer that we appear to be getting.
     
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    OK it seems Tow-Line has more of a "Super Mode" of sorts similar to Optimus Prime with his trailer while the base robot mode is literally just half of the actual vehicle... which I still think is more acceptable as there's more of an actual reason for partsforming to happen in that instance than just being lazy with the transformation.

    As for the second part... fair enough.
     
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    Prelude: During the days of G1 the big city bots all came with a number of support robots and drones. Some of them were robots of their own, others just a way to make use of parts that were used in city mode. For the mighty Trypticon the latter was a tank named Brunt, who basically became Trypticon’s towers in city mode. Brunt never had a robot mode of his own back in the days, but now he’s been brought back for the first time since 1986 for the Siege line as a stand-alone robot. Here we go!

    Robot Mode: As mentioned above, the original Brunt never had a robot mode, so the designers of the Siege figure were more or less free to do as they pleased here. In what I presume is preparation for an eventual repaint, Brunt in robot mode resembles fellow tank bot Tankor from Beast Machines. A big, hefty robot, pincers as hands, big gun on his back, tiny little head. The paint job is mostly purple, befitting a Decepticon warrior, and the huge forarms with the pincers make him look very dangerous.

    The figure is very nicely articulated, especially considering that it’s designed to fall into several different pieces, and the detail work is also very good. The infamous battle damage paint specks are restricted to his pincers, which looks pretty good. Sadly the big gun peeking out behind his back cannot flip forward onto his shoulder, but can be removed and plugged into his forearm for shooting. This is basically the only slight downside here.

    Overall I very much like this robot mode and, apart from the already announced Powerdasher repaint, I’m hoping to see this mold used for Tankor and possibly a pre-Beast-Wars Scorponok. Thumbs up.

    Alternate Mode: This is the mode where Brunt strongly adheres to his G1 predecessor. Brunt becomes a futuristic tank with a big gun in the center. Unlike the other two Weaponizers, who (mostly) transform in one piece, Brunt actually has to be taken apart and put back together in order to transform. Nothing that bugs me, but I thought I’d mention it. The finished tank looks pretty good, has Brunt’s head peeking out in front (more shades of Tankor) and the big gun itself can turn and be raised upwards. All in all a perfectly decent tank mode, no complaints.

    Like the other support robots / drones of the G1 citybots, Brunt, too, has been turned into a Weaponizer for the Siege line. Meaning he doesn’t just transform into a vehicle, he also falls apart into a number of weapons to be used by other figures. In Brunt’s case that’s the big gun (which can split into two parts), the claw hands, and a few other parts. Compared with the other Weaponizers Brunt is actually a bit short on actual weapons, but in his case it’s the size that matters more than the numbers.

    Just like with the other Weaponizers there are multiple variants on how to arrange these parts as weapons / armor on other figures. See just two variants in the pictures. Personally I like the one where he can become a kind-of claw-rucksack for another figure (see 13th picture), but that’s subjective, naturally. Overall I’d rate Brunt’s Weaponizer mode as slightly behind Cog’s, but better than Sixguns. Still like the concept very much, so thumbs up here as well.

    Remarks: Brunt never made an appearance in the G1 cartoon or comics as a separate entity, only as part of Trypticon’s city mode. That he is now part of the Siege line marks his first toy appearance since 1986 and we’re still waiting for his first in-media appearance as something other than a building. Total lack of media presence aside, though, Brunt is a great figure. So far the Siege line is really impressing me and the Weaponizer gimmick is pretty great, too. So if his zero media presence doesn’t bother you, Brunt is most definitely worth a look (and a repaint or two, too).

    Rating: A-

    Source: Transformers-Universe.com
     
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  5. das_hermit

    das_hermit Decepticons forever!

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    Maybe in grey for one of these guys
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    Definitely want to pop a Tank Drone head on this sucker. Haven't transformed him yet but love the claw hands
     
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    I've just been wondering if this is a possibility since I haven't come across a Brunt yet, but recently I picked up the Refraktor Reconnaissance team 3 pack and I'm kind of curious if it's possible to mount any of the treads on to his camera mode (or just the regular Refraktor camera assembly) to make it similar to the camera-tank alt mode TFA Reflector had in the Allspark Almanac?

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    Took a pic to give a better idea. I know if it's even possible to attach the treads to the sides or underneath that it won't look like this at all, but still think it would be kinda cool anyways. XD
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    I finally got a Brunt today from Toys R Us.

    Robot Mode: I love the look. He looks somewhat generic-troop-ish, but I think that's a point in his favor because you can view him and Refraktor as the faceless mook army of the Decepticons with Refraktor as the cannon fodder/light duty soldier or specialist while Brunt is the heavy ops bot that would absorb a pounding with his thicker armor and wade into combat to rend Autobots apart with his bare claws. Unlike Cog and Sixgun, I think his partsform-y nature is relatively well hidden and he doesn't look like a mass of gangly limbs plugged onto a torso.

    If I have some dislikes, I wish that his gun could peg onto his shoulder instead of his upper back, allowing it to face forward in robot mode. I also wish there was a better way for him to hold his gun in his claws/hands. I never like the whole "non-traditional hands bot cheats his weapon-holding by pegging onto his forearm" setup. Light-piping his visor to add to the Cylon-esque head would've been cool too, but I'm not broken up over that.

    Tank Mode: I love this too. It's small and squat and looks like exactly what I'd expect: A big-ass gun plunked on top of some treads. It's an all-business, no-frills type of rolling weapon that suits his nature perfectly. Again, it adds to the "heavy ops" look and makes it believable as a frontline damage dealer or an artillery support troop. I know TFWiki advises some caution with adjusting his arms in for tank or weaponizer mode, but I haven't had a problem doing it with even the little bit of extra force I've found is needed for them to click into place cleanly. I wish that perhaps there was a better option for a "big barrel" setup when you don't have the handgun plugged into the end of the cannon, so that it didn't just look like a 5mm peg hole inside a leg. I also wish that there was something that could be done with the feet/toes so that they didn't appear to just be stuck together sole-to-sole to form the cannon. Make them twist or flip down or something just to disguise their nature by looking like vents or something.

    Weaponizer Mode: To be blunt, I've been disappointed with the weaponizer setup of all 3 figures in the line. But maybe Brunt's is the most disappointing of all. In theory he has the pieces that should be super interesting. A huge cannon and a pair of heavy claws? Awesome. But you're left to either do the very clumsy backpack claws setup (Which I still don't totally understand the construction of.) or a shoulder cannon that leaves the other thigh peg unused and requires the claw pieces to be stuck on the equipping bot's forearms or feet in a disappointing fashion. His torso becomes a clunky looking big gun with a tiny barrel (thanks to using the handgun on the end of it) and then the turret piece is just... there. I've seen some saving done with the other weaponizers through the fact that fans have figured out alternate loadout configurations that make use of the parts better, but that doesn't seem to be possible with Brunt.

    I've never liked attaching weaponizer parts onto other bot feet. It usually just looks like you're standing the bot on platform sandals. It would've been nice if deluxe bots could peg onto the treads of Brunt with them wrapping around their foot/leg almost like boots, but I get that would be too had given the different proportions of all the different Deluxe figures, and impossible to coexist with the Voyager ones. I also wish that maybe there was a way to make Brunt be more about armor than just guns. If his torso could transform into an equippable flak vest of source that would've been awesome. If the turret could be a pair of gauntlets or arm guards or something, that would've been amazing. But instead nothing really fits and it all just sort of seems sad. Maybe a pair of Brunts would let me load up a double set of shoulder cannons or something, but I'm not spending $30 Cdn just to make slightly better use of a disappointing mode I'll never deploy on my own.


    I think that there's some room to use Brunt as an army-builder along with Refraktor in the configuration I described above in my robot mode comments, but it's not something I'm likely to do given that I've already committed to doing some small scale army building with Refraktor (buying the special combo pack as well as at least a couple vanilla singles) and there's only so many times I can justify spending another $30 to fill out my ranks. Maybe if they end up on clearance at TRU at some point, or are marked down to $20-25 I could justify another one or two later on (and given how many wave 1/2 weaponizers I've seen popping up on store shelves still, I can hope that the overloading wave of Brunts comes in November or December), but I don't think that option is for me at this point. Not that I'd begrudge anyone who chose to go that route because I'm sure it would look great. It's really nice to give the 'cons the pieces to make a faceless drone army given that over the last few series it's always seemed like the faction balance tends towards being Autobot-heavy (I'm trying to display my siege and PWT bots right now and am having a hard time balancing out my factions because I have far too many interesting Autobots to put out compared to a smaller squad of decepticons, especially if I put the 'con combiners in their gestalt modes (like Abominus or even CW Devastator))
     
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    Finally found one. He certainly is a particularly sexy shade of Decepticon purple
     
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    Just got him today, after deciding whether to get sixgun, or Leader Shockie.

    He's fun! And one of few TF's that I don't mind having Monkey arm syndrome. Also, he transform more...definitive? Than Cog, which I love <3
     

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    I agree, Trypticon feels more complete with him. My son has had a lot of fun with Brunt and Trypticon.
     
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    just opened mine, and while i like the look of him in both modes, this was pretty disappointing. at the very lease, it seems like the arms should have been able to transform fairly easily without partsformering (especially looking at how creative Impactor's transformation is)~ i could have forgiven the lower legs the conceit of the fact they turn into the big-ol MASER cannon, but the arms stay in ESSENTIALLY the exact same space but have to be removed (just flipping sides). Pretty lame. he was worth the $11-12 that he was going for on Cyber Monday, but i am really glad i didn't pay any more then that.
     
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    I feel like at this point, arguing about them being partsformers is moot. Weaponizers are a thing with this trilogy, or at least Siege and Earth Rising, the very concept of their design is coming apart and becoming accessories while also able to maintain a coherent robot mode AND vehicle mode.

    Being annoyed because Weaponizers arms come off is kind of... pointless, let's be honest. You knew what you were getting long before you obtained Brunt.

    Now, if we were talking Impactor or Spinister, or Soundwave or Starscream, sure. Then you'd have a grievance that everyone could get behind.
     
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    Particularly since the original G1 figures they were based on were all partsformers, anyway.
     
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    Dammit, Shockwave's extra stuff forms a pretty solid and neat looking exosuit for Brunt but sadly only one of his feet has a 5mm port under it, so the shoe on that foot is just standing there on the photo. Everything else has ports to latch on to (his torso is just wide enough so the Lens part can fit and peg over his sides)
     
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    Definitely has that Centurions vibe.
     
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    I’m getting a real Crab Battlemech vibe myself.
     
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    Update to the above:

    I've messed around with Brunt and Trypticon some more and come up with what I think are better uses of his parts in Trypticon's base and starship modes:

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    Brunt is actually a recommended buy, especially if you have TR Trypticon. He's still not my favorite of the Siege Weaponizers, but you could say that he's grown on me. Even by himself, he's the only Decepticon weaponizer we've gotten, so that gives you another reason to get multiples if you are able.

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    Did someone make a Brunt combiner upthread? I have five Brunts now, so I'd be interested in that...or maybe that was a different thread entirely. :rolleyes: 
     
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    Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one to see the resemblance.
     
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