Truth.
Moore didnt put the Big Blue Wang, hence forth to be refered to as BBW, to be a "lol look at that, his BBW is hanging out." It was more of a "I'm a god and dont care about your petty social taboos." It was a way to make Jon seem even further removed from humanity.
Moore has always been very much against the "established government", not in an anarchy way, but more in a "Jesus get your heads out your asses and do the the job the PEOPLE who put you in office want you to do"

And honestly are we that juvenile that we need to laugh/snicker/whatever at the BBW? Cmon. Its not like he was running around mushroom stamping bad guys or shooting lightning bolts from it. After the first "HELLO!" time seeing, I just ended up forgetting about it. Honestly, if you are focusing on that as a reason why you didnt like the movie, you missed the big picture. Its a penis. Get over it.

 

That may have made the movie better actually. LOL.

 

Lol it would have been funny. Dont mean to get snippy, but I've read in some many places "ZOMG BBW MADE THE MOVIE SUCK!" /facepalm.
Did you not read the book lol?

 

And so my sig is fulfilled...

 

100% win, sir.  


However, I wouldn't use the BBW abbreviation anywhere without prefacing it....  

 

To the folks who had infants and/or small children at their showings, I feel your pain. Having a baby cry after the Comedian gets thrown out of the window was MOST EXCELLENT.

Got a baby? Wait for the DVD or find a sitter.

 

Saw it today, loved it. Rorschach was absoultely amazing and I reallyenjyed the portrayal of Nite Owl. Manhattan was IMHO done really well, I thought the pure CGI route would be ropey, but feel it worked very well.

As with many others here, I found the whole music thing a bit odd, but it didn't detract too much.

The change to the end felt a bit odd, but as much as I love what happened in the book, I can see that not translating to the screen so well now. Rorschach cleaving the child killer was utter rubbish though, in the book it was a defining point for him, this was cack. If they really changed it just because of the whole Saw thing, that'd be even worse...

 

I just got back from watching Watchmen, and I loved it. It was an extremely faithful and well crafted adaptation of my favourite comic. I am not disappointed in any way whatsoever. I can deal with the deviations; blaming the whole thing on Jon was a very good idea, and far more realistic (so to speak) than the original method. As for Rorschach, I can deal with the change. The end result was still the same.
Thanks Zak, you did a great job.

People with babies should do this ANYWAY. Taking a baby to a movie (whatever the movie) is frankly inconsiderate; it does nothing but piss of a cinema full of people who paid good money to see a movie, not hear crying. (yeah, guess what happened at the cinema earlier. Eventually the parent had to leave, or I think someone would have thrown them out)

 

Saw it yesterday and loved it. Haley was utterly brilliant as Rorschach. Nite Owl, Comedian and Manhattan were all great, too. Laurie and Veidt came off a little flat, but I think that had more to do with how good the other four were by comparison. They didn't do an inherently bad job, just serviceable.

The music didn't bother me or take me out of the film, except oddly enough, Ride of the Valkyries. Stripped of the context in which it's mentioned in the book, here it came off more like, "Hey everybody, remember when they used this in Apocalypse Now?! This is kinda like that, only not!" Most everything else was spot on. The much criticized Nena song, I thought was absolutely perfect. Never did much care for that Cohen song, though.

All the consternation about the wang is massively disproportionate to its presence onscreen. I kept expecting a shot of a three-story penis to take up the entire screen the way some reviews carry on about it. It was about as distracting as it was in the book, which is to say, not at all after the first panel or so. With everything else that's going on, that's what you're paying attention to? Really? Movie/material = definitely not for you.

The ending? I like it. The squid works on the page, but probably wouldn't have translated well to the screen. This way absolutely suits the film version better. The girlfriend, completely unfamiliar with the material going in, enjoyed it and had no problem understanding what was going on. Most of my complaints are just nitpicks over omitted material, much of which I expect will be addressed/inserted into the director's cut. It never once at 160 minutes felt overly long to me. Bring on the 210+ minute version.

 

+5 rep for you! That pretty much what my thoughts on the matter were. I was talking to a buddy online about it and the first thing his said was "Holy sh*t! I cant believe the guys wang was hanging out!"
 

 

Congrats to the Watchmen who won this weekend's box office!

 

Here's the article from CNN.

'Watchmen' takes box office lead - CNN.com

Doesn't sound good for next week though.

Edit: Poor Malin. Everyone and their mothers are ripping her a new asshole for her performance, but really, she didn't have much to work with. I can't really fault her when compared to everyone else.

 

The ironic thing about the whole Saw-Watchmen deal is that I once read an interview with Leigh Whannel and James Wan in which they mentioned Rorschach's confrontation with Gerald Grice as an inspiration for their movie...

 

Rereading "Under the Hood" Hollis Mason says something to the effect that when you look at Manhattan, a part of your brain wants to deny that he's real. Sounds like CGI to me.

So chaining him up and letting him burn is fine, put putting him down like a dog isn't? That's really the only change.

 

It'll bank at least $100m domestic, and at least $100m overseas. This is a three hour art film about superheroes opening in March, staring characters no one knows, actors no one has seen, and a story few people have read by an author who's name they can't mention.

Snyder pulled a Veidt worthy con in getting this film made the way that it is, and somewhere the Comedian is laughing his ass off that WB managed to get people to see it.

As for next weekend, this film has polarized audiences. There a lot of hate, a lot of love. It'll be interesting to see how the word of mouth travels now that the man in the street knows what the film is, and isn't.

I liked her. I can't say it was a good performance, because I can't say that it was what they were going for, but to me Laurie was always a lost person, stuck between other people's agendas, always trying to please others. She wasn't the strong personality like Blake or Rorschach.

 

Seen it twice already. Absolutely amazing.

 

Why does everyone keep saying the Rorschach bit was changed because of Saw? I seem to remember mad Max doing almost the same thing to the bad guy at the end of The Road Warrior. Meh....maybe I'm just showing my age.



















NOW GET OFF MAH LAWN, YA YOUNG WHIPPER SNAPPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Saw it yesterday. Great movie! I was surprised, it was very deep and dealt with a lot of socio-political themes underlying the main plots. My wife didn't like it though. Will watch it again to catch things I may have missed the first time.

 

also let me interject that the opening sequence was brilliant - Really enjoyed the style and the song that accompanied it.

 

Personally, I liked the change to Rorschach's turning point. In the comics, just chaining the killer up and leaving him burn or hack off his own arm shows a "I won't kill you but I don't have to save you" mentality, the type shown at the end of Batman Begins. But in the movie, it shows how Rorschach stops viewing these people he hunts as humans and shows how he decides to actively, and most often violently, kill them flat out. It follows along his entire line of thinking that if you're not pure, and good and untainted...which is all of no one...then you're a dog that should be put down. The guy never even had that chance to save himself, which shows a much larger "snap" in Rorschach then just letting him burn.

The ending also felt more "right" to me then teleporting in a giant mind noming space squid to the middle of NYC to scare the world straight. The fact that multiple cities were destroyed, and that the blame fell on to someone the world knew of and already feared seems to be a much more plausible threat to a "realistic" world, then random space monsters. In a world where the most dangerous "super villians" are guys in funny masks, having this oddity come out of no where just seems too far fetched. Especially when you already have that one-in-a-million all powerful oddity watching over the planet. It gave the world a fear they could put a face to, a name behind, and to gather and rise against as one.

Despite Alan Moore's constant insistance that his comics "can't be made to films" and that Hollywood is evil or whatever the hell he complains about, the fact of the matter is that Hollywood movies reach far more people then any comic ever could. And when an adaptation is done correctly, it can expose millions of people to an epic and thought provoking story that they would have otherwise been completely oblivious too. I'm a comic book fan myself, but even I passed up reading the Watchmen time and time again for various reasons. But seeing it on film, and knowing there is so much more to know about these characters and this world he created, it's given me more then enough reason to actually sit down and take in the entire thing. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that belief.

I am now a Watchmen fan, and if it weren't for the film that wouldn't have happened.