Wei Jiang drama thread

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by ToyAnatomy, Jun 3, 2020.

  1. Rob

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    I feel your pain! Only difference is I want a larger WFC Siege Ironhide. It is our love for a larger Ironhide that bridges the gap between Bay and G1 fan :lol .
     
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  2. A Good Noodle

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    Same here. Main reason I want this version is mpm Ironhide is real good but his wheels just hang down and don't connect to his armpits. It just triggers me whenever I see them hanging.
     
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    I am pretty close to buying my first KO-anything, probably going to grab a G1 Mirage. Looks like quality is hit or miss, but there’s no way I want to pay $200 for a broke ass original. At least not at this point. People have been making the fixes seem easy, and I’ve read all the threads about fixing the waist, but it seems like major ass pain. Also it looked like there was a fair amount of diecast in the frame, Which of course I would be stoked to have.
     
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    Ironworks is fantastic! Love that guy- looks so cool. I plastered mine up with black and yellow caution decals on the ramps.
     
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    So is the Black Apple Prime back anywhere?
     
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    You guys are all setting yourselves up for some major disappointments.
     
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    to answer ur question dna design would be safe since they dont make knock offs
    they only make their own figures or upgrade kits.

    toyworld makes their own designs. Tfw04 and twf05 are kind of in a grey area

    simply put hasbro and takara do not have a trademark on vehicles that can transform into robots
    that would be like lego having the monopoly on interlocking bricks
     
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  10. Thalyn

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    Looks like there's movement here, per a post on TransFans. I don't speak Chinese and the machine translations I can get are pretty woeful, but if I'm interpreting what I can find accurately it would seem that five high-ups in Wei Jiang have plead guilty and are going to be facing prison terms of up to ten years each. Someone else can probably get more out of it if they can actually read the original text.

    Since it will doubtless be asked, I've no idea if Black Apple is one of the five.
     
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    Summary: 5 persons were charged for the 2019 case of KO-ing Transformers products. The brands 'WeiJiang and Luba' were specifically mentioned. All 5 plead guilty and will be sentenced at a later date. Minimum of 3 years jail, maximum of 10 and/or with a fine; depending on the illegal financial gains to be determined.

    Weibo source: Sina Visitor System

    Raw txt for you to google translate:

    涉及侵犯变形金刚知识产权的“威将案”今日在上海市虹口区开庭。虹口区检察院认为,本案系侵犯国际知名玩具公司著作权案件,涉及立体作品著作权的保护,犯罪嫌疑人作案手段隐蔽,通过在生产的玩具产品中夹杂一些自己设计的内部零件等方法来掩盖侵权事实。整个犯罪过程涉及铸模、开模、生产、存储、运输和销售等多个环节,社会影响恶劣。
    李某甲、安某等5人自2019年起,在未经知识产权权利单位孩之宝公司授权情况下,对该公司“大黄蜂”“擎天柱”等27款变形金刚系列玩具进行仿冒设计、外观微调、生产等,并冠以“威将”“陆霸”等品牌对外销售,涉案金额达200万余元,情节特别严重,已触犯《刑法》第二百一十七条,应当以侵犯著作权罪分别追究其刑事责任。
    5名被告人均表示认罪认罚,法院将择期宣判。
    《刑法》第二百一十七条规定,违法所得数额较大或者有其他严重情节的,处三年以下有期徒刑,并处或者单处罚金;违法所得数额巨大或者有其他特别严重情节的,处三年以上十年以下有期徒刑,并处罚金。
     
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    Lego did have a patent on interlocking blocks until very recently actually:
    Lego, you are dead to me

    It doesn't mean that other companies tried to skirt around it before then of course, but they did have more of a monopoly on interlocking blocks until about 10 years ago, at least in countries that respected IP.
     
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    OUCH!!!!!

    Its a sad fucking day when IP infringement carries a penalty that is almost as steep as manslaughter.
     
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  14. octobotimus

    octobotimus Bad company ruins good morals

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    Yeah this should be yet another sign of them being a long dead company at this point. The old stock getting sold off right now is probably the last we’ll see of Weijang. :( 
     
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    Wow, reading through many of the comments on Weibo is quite amusing. The rapid back and forth of KO supporters against ardent IP supporters really drowns out the sensible people claiming it's an unfortunate outcome, but the law is the law. I guess I expected the views to be much different than many of the forums on this site? No idea why that was my expectation, either.
     
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    It’s not just toys that transform.

    I believe tho that they could argue in a court that TE-01 is taking sales from Has/Tak’s MP Optimus because of the likeness.

    And if they could pull that off then see big changes in UL3P.
     
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    All the more reason for 3P to move away from toon and movie accurate renditions. It's sad that it's come to this, and I feel for fans of those aesthetics. But looks like the market has to diversify a bit to survive.

    At the end of the day, the chilling effect this will have on the Transformers market is going to be a net negative for Hasbro/Takara. When fans don't have enough variety to choose from, many are going to walk away from it rather than wait for an official product to meet their liking.
     
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    Stupidity is a language spoken by all.
     
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    Pretty close to where I’m at.

    Which will happen first? MP Jazz or a new version of an MP we’ve already had?
     
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    The latter.
     
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