Wei Jiang drama thread

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by ToyAnatomy, Jun 3, 2020.

  1. VelsR

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  2. OmarJT82

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    Am I the only who fears that the end of Oversized KO Transformers figures is at hand?
     
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  3. edgecrusher

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    Same old, same old. Zero new risk here for real 3Ps. This is just HasTak taking out KOs that use actual TF names and copy existing physical product. That's well within their rights.
     
  4. Genesis86

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    I preordered some transformers from Show z store. Will i get my money back?
     
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    I'm not an expert on Chinese law, but I think even in China the call if it's indeed counterfeit or not is not up to the police. It will be determined by lawyers and judges in a court of law. So the police calling it counterfeit doesn't mean it actually is by law.

    Of course, no matter how expensive the lawyers hired by Weijiang will be, the judge will rule that these are indeed counterfeits. Because upscaling and minor changes are not enough to skirt even the chinese law. Especially in such public case.
     
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    a small cart company tought it would be fun to do a Mario Kart theme.
    They've got slapped so hard that they did not even do it, do not mess with Mario.
    This was to be expected since last year they went after Sluban and another company for making ko Lego and gundams
     
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    Post typed in blue font.
    Kinda.

    KO's are bad because they rip off Has / Tak and illegally make duplicates of their work to sell online for less than Has / Tak product.
    So Has / Tak needs to take down the KO companies n order to protect their property.

    So go purchase TE-01 for $100 from an online store TE Optimus.jpg instead of MP-4 for $400 from an online store mp-44.jpg

    I mean... both TE-01 and KO's are unlicensed and both steel Has / Tak's property.
    But TE-01 is not being a KO is OK because they designed the engineering of someone else's property themselves instead of the bastards who duplicated someone else's property.
    So unlicensed 3P's property theft is actually OK.

    So go but theirs instead of Has / Tak's. After all, Has / Tak hasn't taken them down.






    Yet.
     
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    Let's dissect this... You ordered "Transformers".... Okay.
    "will I get my money back?"... did you cancel your order?



    Wrong comparison... Better to use MP-44 and the KO of MP-44.
     
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    daimchoc I preordered and paid in full. I didnt message them yet about cancellation. I wanted you guys opinions first.
     
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    Screenshot_2019-10-23-19-23-57-1.png
    This shit should be public domain by now!

    #copyleft
    Copyleft - Wikipedia
     
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  12. bellpeppers

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    Nope.
    TE-01 is a MP Optimus, just as IP-stealing as any KO.
    And it s cheaper than the official offering.

    I stand by my comparison.
     
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  13. daimchoc

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    @Genesis86, Put your response outside of the quote. Not sure why you posted on this thread, unless you ordered WJ products. You can send ShowZ a message. You should get a refund if you put in a pre-order, unless there's a stipulation that you can't.



    People know that TE-01 is not a KO.
     
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    Thank you. Yes i ordered 2 black apple optimus prime from weijiang and paid in full. last month show z messaged me telling me there was an issue with the factory and that they are waiting for their reply. but now i find out wei jiang been shut down.
     
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    I also preordered something from Black mamba and Toys Mage as well. Are they in trouble too? will i have to cancel my orders from them as well?
     
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    Then Hasbro must always take away absolutely all rights to the TF and finally give it away in the possession of Takara-Tomy.
     
  17. edgecrusher

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    You're trying really hard to ignore the fact that TE and MaSq figures came out months before MP44. They are not KOs.
    Ahh, you're just an insufferable troll. Got it.
    KOs copy physical products. Hence the term knock-off. It is a distinct and significant difference, both in reality and before the law.
     
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  18. edgecrusher

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    Your definitions are incorrect and you appear to be trying to rewrite history with your modified definition of the meaning of KO. When you say "clearer" you apparently just mean "definitions that suit my agenda, which doesn't work when using the standard definitions". Good luck with that.
     
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    I wish you guys would learn how to read:
    Because I stated in my post that TE-01 wasn't a KO.
     
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    I did!

    ...and haven't looked back.

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    With MP-10, back when $200 -$250 USD would get you a massive amount of quality MP product
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    Maybe if Has/Tak didn't charge such elitist prices, many collectors wouldn't have the need to purchase other, often superior, 3P and KO figures.

    I'm not loyal to organizations... Organizations should be loyal to US!!

    ...but I have a deep love for the characters!! Something tells me Autobots would be opposed to selling a plastic version of their leader for $499 USD!!

    Maybe once I'm fully living in a Phillip K. Dick novel, I will have no choice but to toe that party line and pledge allegiance to Hasbro, Amazon, Tesla, Comcast, and Disney.

    Until then...

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