Was showing devestators ball necesary

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by star11scream, Jul 12, 2009.

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Putting balls on devastator

  1. Good and Necesary

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  2. Stupid and useless

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  3. Why complain

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  1. Human Beastbox

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    That scene was absolutely integral to the story that had to be told.

    BELIEVE IT!:thumbs2: 
     
  2. RoastDude

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    Very unneccisary. They've taken one of the most anticipated TFs in this film and turned him into a weak joke. It wasn't even funny, none of the people in the theatre laughed, I just heard a few scattered facepalms.
     
  3. AximusPrime

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    That's because they both weren't wrecking balls. Have you ever seen a crane in real life? They have metal balls at the end of them.

    HowStuffWorks "How Hydraulic Cranes Work"

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    You can see a hook on one, the other not so much because of the blurriness. The crane could have had a wrecking ball on it as well to make two balls. Without a screencap of the crane in vehicle mode, it's pretty much up in the air at this point. Either way, if less than 15 seconds of footage of simulated balls on a robot is enough to ruin your moviegoing experience, so be it.
     
  4. Janeails22x

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    Although I do believe that the wrecking balls were "unnecessary", they were quite funny and I enjoyed it. HOWEVER!!!!!!!!!: We definitely did not need Simmons comment about being under the "target's scrotum". THAT is what ruined the joke. In IMAX, you can clearly see them as he is scaling the construction pit.
     
  5. Deceptitech

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    Buying the ticket DOES give us naysayers the right to say how utterly infantile this movie was in our OPINION.

    Every one of you who flame the complainers about the movie gang up and bully whomever does not agree with your ideas. I thought the movie was awful. A lot of people didn't like it.

    They reduced the once mighty gestalt into a gorilla that clangs his balls and can be killed with 1 shot to the back with an "experimental" rail gun. I really liked the transformation, but that one bit just ruined the whole idea of what he should have been.

    I wasn't the only one at the theater that groaned. Several whispers of "Oh man" just resonate through the room.

    You can say that we have no right to complain about how we thought of it. We bought the ticket, and were appalled with how they did this one.

    We have just as much right to say "this movie sucked" as you have to say that it was great. That is like politics. If you vote, it gives you the right to complain about how they are screwing up.

    I am sure the phrase "Sheep up or ship out" is how you think of the movie. You think EVERYONE must like it or else. No dissenting opinions are tolerated in your mind.

    I came. I saw. I was appalled. End of story.
     
  6. -Wreckage-

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    But if we didn't complain, we'd result back to boredom, and what happens when you get bored?
     
  7. Opticron Primal

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    Porn. Duh.
     
  8. -Wreckage-

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    Stupid republican right winger jerk! We are entitled to our opinions, plain and simple! It's america... a FREE country...or do want to stop that to?
     
  9. nkelsch

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    Ah, there is where you are wrong... In Politics, You have active control on how the thing you are voting for is handled and constantly get to re vote to change things.

    Consuming a product is not the same as voting unless you choose not to consume the product. BUYING a ticket doesn't give you the ability to vote 'NO' and change the product to suit you. That is democracy, not economics. They got your money, the transaction is done and your personal opinions literally mean NOTHING anymore.

    You can only vote with your pocketbook, and people are voting 'yes' on this movie. How many times are you going to be fooled into paying money for something you don't enjoy? "fool me 2 times, shame on you, fool me 3 or more times, shame on me!"

    Consume or don't consume. Your ticket doesn't give you ownership, access to a board of directors or a controlling interest in Transformers. This is what you fail to realise. No one cares you are dissatisfied because you voted 'YES' by paying for the movie.

    You are entitled to Opinions. You are not entitled to have your opinions heard or even acknowledged by Hasbro. No product is capable of pleasing everyone and they made a product to please a sepecific demographic and they successed. You apparently are not part of that demographic. They will not and should not change anything to accomidate you if it means they will shrink the demographic appeal and lose them money.

    Good job making this about politics and personal attacks.
     
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  10. Crown_Athlete

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    Edit: NM didn't read above, although they still don't look like the crane's hook. If you ask me they were inserted for what the water head animators consider humor.
     
  11. iamamachine

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    Devastator's balls are absolutely necessary bec. he wants to have lots of children.
     
  12. -Wreckage-

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    That is where you are wrong...

    The Daily Show Full Episode | Thursday Jul 2 2009 | Comedy Central

    Skip to about 19 minutes and 30 seconds into the thing, and listen to what the man has to say...

    you can stop around 20 minutes 15, or just watch the rest, if your still not satisfied...

    EDIT: As he says:

    "We as consumers have more power then we think."

    "Wal-Mart, would you believe, took RPST which is a growth hormone for dairy cow, they took it out of the milk because consumers said they didn't want it."
     
  13. Dark_Convoy

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    I thought it was funny, as did my sons and the female friend of mine that came and saw it with me.
     
  14. nkelsch

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    Consumers have power by not purchasing products they don't like. That is how you vote. You can't buy something and say "but I hate it" and expect it to change.

    Hasbro will not change the movie to what you want because people are buying the current product they are producing. You only make changes when a product *ISN'T* successful, like the milk example in your video. Please understand economics and your own examples before you quote them. Consumers refused to buy Milk with hormones and so Wal-mart changed thier product.
     
  15. -Wreckage-

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    and I'll refuse to buy the ugly transformers unless they change them.

    Think I don't know what I'm talking about?


    BTW: Watch the movie their talking about. I have the feeling you need a reality check...
     
  16. Deceptitech

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    I was merely comparing this to politics in the aspect that "You can voice your opinion if you see/experience this".

    Voting doesn't give you active work in how they vote for anything in the house, senate, and what not. They vote to give themselves power. But that goes too far off topic.

    My opinion was that this movie overall sucked. If you liked it, fine. Just don't throw your tons of hate on me because I don't like it.
     
  17. nkelsch

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    Then don't? You don't know what you are talking about. If you don't like something, don't consume it. Don't pretend you have controlling interest or every product you don't like should change to fit your personal wants.

    That is the point. Hasbro knows this movie and the toys are not going to please 100% of the population and they don't care. They feel they have captured the largest demographic with thier current changes to the franchise. You simply are not part of it. They know these changes will alienate some long-time adult transformer collectors, and those people are an insignificant number of people who really don't matter for anything and are not the core demographic.

    Unless the core Demographic dislikes the changes, why should they change? And as of now, TF1 was a huge success and TF2 is looking to be the same level of success. Whys hould they change to capture a consumer who isn't satisfied if it will harm the franchise?

    Because TF fans think thier opinions matter more than average consumers and that being a collector in a Hobby gives them a controlling interest and Hasbro should strive to *KEEP* those customers over generating new ones.

    Sorry, Core Demographic matter,s statistically insignificant subsection of adult collectors do not.

    If you like this version of TFs, consume it, if you don't... don't consume it. If you consume it and then sit around and bitch expecting it to change, you have no idea how economics work and will never see any change.
     
  18. -Wreckage-

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    couldn't agree with this more...

    and there you go, saying the exact thing you said before...

    I am a guy who doesn't support something without evidence. I provided it, yet you failed to see my point. End of discussion.
     
  19. ian5555

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    Does the toy have them? Pretty silly joke but I'm not going to complain about something that took a whole 2 seconds in the movie. I could see where they thought they were being clever though giving a "wrecking ball" to the construction robot.
     
  20. Tyrannosaur

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    Ok so Devastator has wrecking balls, whoop de shit. it's was a fucking 8 second scene why do people make a big deal over it?
     
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