Not necessarily, since that same branding is on the Buzzworthy Bumblebee toys, including Spike and Fangry.

 

So you think the core class Bumblebee and Spike and Worlds Collide 4 pack aren't intended to be part of Kingdom?  

 

That’s why I want a Binaltech Ravage from Kingdom Tracks. He’s got the memories of BW Ravage but the spark of G1 Ravage (who was trapped in cassette mode inside Binaltech Ravage).

 

the cassette holder wall display thing is just perfect imo

 

Taking a look at it again and comparing to the cartoon this is a bit of a strange release. That bot mode is nearly perfect I think and the guns look accurate enough as well. The alt mode doesn't really matter because the casette is the real alt mode anyway. But I do wonder WHY they felt the need to have regular Cheetor's calves and feet; those are the one thing keeping that bot mode from being perfect. I still think it's a great looking BW Ravage but I can't help but wonder why they indeed didn't just go all in on it and then further retool to make a Transmetal Cheetor. I'm not even really a fan of beast mode paws being feet but for a figure that goes as far as it does it's a noticeable descrepancy.

 

hey yeah wtf hasbro, where's our third time traveling ravage to complete the set?

 

I didn’t buy that pack. Is there a reason to think that Spike somehow fits into the Kingdom storyline rather than some other part of the WFC universe?

 

It doesn't necessarily fit into the Kingdom storyline, however that Bumblebee absolutely was intended as a Kingdom figure considering it scales with the core class and core class wasn't a thing till Kingdom. Plus with the time travel shenanigans taking place in Kingdom there's really no reason to rule out the possibility.

 

Meh. It's a technicality. Especially since a bat would suit him well.

 

Other the pack having Kingdom artwork I don’t see any reason to connect it to wfc.

 

It also has the War For Cybertron Trilogy logo, so it's as connected as any WFC Trilogy Selects would be

 

Beast Wars had a ton of name reuses that were not the G1 characters. There’s nothing in his bio to suggest that he was G1 Soundwave.

 

Hate to burst your bubble, but the script for The Agenda specifically called out Ravage's lack of speech in the original cartoon and suggested the Russian accent for him (which also suggested using Transmetal Cheetor as a base for his model-- both of which were followed-up on).

In fact Bob Forward was inspired by the G1 Ravage toy he obtained before writing this script.

 

That may be, but what they said is correct, Beast Wars never committed to Sunbow or Marvel, it had references to both

 

Canonically, Beast Wars cartoon is a sequel to Generation 1 as a whole but not entirely in line with the Sunbow cartoon. Its universe appears to be primarily influenced and dominated by the Sunbow cartoon universe and we can assume that the events of Sunbow G1 are mostly canon unless specific. There are a few differences, however which is why the Transtech multiverse notations list it as Primax 496.22 Alpha and the Sunbow cartoon as Primax 984.17 Apha. Beast Wars's universe would presumably count as being mostly-indical-unless-where-noted in the same way the Japanese G1 universe is technically deemed a separate reality.

So essentially, Beast Wars can be treated as a direct sequel in the broad sense but a few details diverge from both universes to be 1:1, in a way that is similar to how the Stargate movie is canon to the Stargate series barring a few details in continuity that changed.

 

It basically follows an unseen G1 that is a composite of Sunbow/Marvel where the toon and comics are more or less the myths of their history. There's truth in the stories of both, but neither is 100% what happened

 

Any ideas where this one will be sold?

 

Nothing concrete, but the engineering is there on some of the Kingdom figures to do TM remolds.

 

Such as?

The only real part of TM Cheetor that Ravage used was the legs, but the legs o Kingdom Ravage aren't even accurate to the TM figure, so it's not like a TM retool would utilize anything from Ravage except the thighs.

 

Megatron was the one that came to mind for me just because of how the dino mode thighs swing up like the old TM figure. Blackarachnia also doesn't seem too hard to remold into her TM form.