They could easily make a voyager Primal and a leader Megatron. They can even be both sold at the leader price point, with Primal being smaller with more gimmicks and accessories, and Megatron bigger. That would be consistent with how they are using scale and size classes in the current lines. Of course they might also decide to make both of them the same size, but I don't think they feel compelled to follow the old toys scale.

 

Isn't there a modern Beast Wars speculation thread already? I think some of the BW fans prefer the speculation to go in that one.

 

Then why he wasn't labeled with the EX like Grapple from Earthrise?

The Beast Saga can be a good title for Generations from 2022.

~V! V! Victory! Transformers Victory!~
Come on, can't we agree on getting Star Saber, Deathsaurus, and every other character in that series? We already got the trio from Zone, Star Convoy, a Super Megatron still not showing up, and we could need some love for the obscure ones too which never ever touched by 3P either (most likely Landcross since FansProject and TFC never bothered). I think in Earthrise, instead of a 10-pack Micromaster set, we could hope for either a whole set of combiner squads, or maybe a Sixteam since the other 4 can be replaced with combiner parts.

Hence the idea why Road Caesar is 3 to Liokaiser's 6. Same with Landcross v. Dinoking.

 

But Tigerhawk didn't lead his faction. Not in show (Optimal Optimus was still the maximal leader right to the end) nor was he described as being a leader on the toy box. Being paired in the same size class as a faction leader doesn't make someone a faction leader. Fiction dictates this, even if it's just tech specs on the toy box- and TM2 Megatron's specifically mentioned his rival as Optimal Optimus.
For a concurrent release, TM2 Megatron may have been paired with a powerful opponent in his size class, but it wasn't the opposing leader.

 

A road caesar could work well for the way siege works, they could have three leader class price point figures that each have parts of the combiner, the feet and an arm come with each of the legs (Laster and Braver), and the rest of the parts come with Blacker, Blacker would be a voyager with armor parts, and the limbs would be large deluxes with more parts

 

Because Takara decided to not use the EX label for siege? Idk, but nemesis has a siege number from Takara, SG-06, by all indications he is a mainline exclusive and not part of generations selects. On top of that, he doesn’t fit with the design philosophy of takaras generations selects line which uses heavy remolds rather than straight repaints or slight retools like the hasbro version of generations selects.

we know he is a Takara tomy mall exclusive and we know he has a siege number, therefore all evidence shows he is part of siege, just store exclusive

 

I hope we get monstructor someday....and maybe have some original molds for the torso since it's six guys together

 

Wait, is Earthrise Grapple going to be an exclusive? Or is that only for the Takara release? This is information that I missed.

 

just Takara.

 

As much as MP, actually. Notice how the newer MP Bumblebee is taller than the older one? A difference arguable more than the difference between Siege & ER Primes. And MP Firebolt's scale is necessarily compromised to fit as a smaller weapon, as canonically, Hot Rod is 5 meters tall and Firebolt(or any human-sized TF) is around 2 meters tall. Much similar to Spasma's size compromise.

 

Imo Beast Wars chug doesn't have any relation to the siege or Earthrise figures, so they only have to scale relative to each other.

 

Agreed, they should just do it like the mp figures

 

Or, simply do them as the same size, Voyagers for example, like the other factional leaders seen in WFC thus far.

They were a pair in the toyline, and they even squared off accordingly in the show:

 

IMHO, it makes a difference HOW they do it.

If we’re talking a full on BW line? Then do it like MPs. (Which have a size difference between Primal and Megatron like the cartoon but which are not scaled to G1 MPs.)

If we’re talking about BW characters showing up in a line that’s 70% G1 as a teaser/prequel thing (ie. the crew of the Axalon with vehicle modes as guest characters in a TFTM/JG1 heavy line) then I’d prefer they keep classic scale with the two Megatrons being similar in height and a roughly Refraktor sized Primal who turns into a little Bladerunner style car.

The question is whether they’re the stars of the line or cameos/“after credits teasers”.

 

Or if it’s just beast wars characters in generations (like has been done before in universe and generations and masterpiece) just scale the bw characters to each other and ignore how they scale to g1 as has been done in the past. Bwmp is not it’s own line, neither were universe cheetor, universe dinobot, generations Rhinox, rattrap, waspinator or potp primal

 

Best meme in this entire thread, sir. You win it all. <3

 

Hmm... Hmm... great idea on putting them on leader prices... despite only a few leaders are always made annually.

 

Its either that or having a three pack that is in between commander and titan class price points

 

Then who was the mainline SG-06? I assume it's one of the wave 1 characters.

Well at least we're filling in the future Titans and Commanders as much as possible.

Who owns the spreadsheet of all the WFC characters listed?

I notice if we add in the Japanese codes that are different from the US release, we can assure which ones which.

 

No idea, haven’t followed the numbering closely from either company, but nemesis prime is takaras sg-06