I think we can all just agree G2 was a weird period in the brand's history because they didn't definitively mark off "eras" in the franchise as they do now.

 

2 things:

(1) Doesn't matter as long as I get a G2 Skyquake repaint! And yes G2...




(2) Kup just outlined one of the great Transformers Paradoxes. How some Transformers seem older than others.... or seem to have aged growing wisened beards etc.

Kup's thought process here really underpins my theory. but nobody cares about my theory.

Add that too
- Having earth kibble pre Earth
- Primes Trailer appearances
- having human centric culture
- Seats in the pre Earth Vehicles.

 

Does it involve a time paradox where future humans came to the past and became Transformers like the Go-Bots were organics who put their brains in robots?

 

Yes they invent Spark technology to live forever and they lose their memories as Primus where they've become one. Also when you think of G1 pre-earth vehicles imagine that these are their best approximations of vehicles that they could remember, thus they're very simplistic dreamlike.

So if what Kup is saying is true, then he shouldn't even have the idea that Rodimus is younger at all unless he experienced youth.

 

-Hot Rod seemed to gain like several thousand years' worth of wisdom and broodingness the instant he took the Matrix

 

The matrix is the only thing that remembers. The matrix is a memory bank, that restores memories and reminds them of their true power. Basically they've forgotten their true power.

Deep AF right?

 

I think the problem is Cybertronians forget to install their Seagate expansion drives.

 

If it’s in my possession, it is what I say it is. Hasbro designate Rafraktor is Reflector on my shelf. Rumble Blue is Frenzy in my home and Slicer will look appropriate next to the G2 blood. I know Toxitron won’t be putting up with any correcting from across any boards when he picks his Cube team. TLK deluxe Squeaks will be keeping the team oiled

 

Perhaps it was because of the two year Gap between U.S. G1-G2 but I always interpreted G2 as taking place in the not-so-distant-to-distant-future. After all the tagline "Generation 2" suggests that a least a generation has passed and when we're dealing with Millenia old nigh immortal robots the timescale becomes wonky at best.

But I attributed their neon color schemes as either the result of high technology or some event changed akin to Nucleon that turned them into Action masters or the Vok weapon that turned the BW crew into Transmetals, something did the same the the G2 crew.

And since hasbro's explanation of Toxitron's sludge creating the neon colors dovetails so well into what I had in my headcanon I just said "Oh, that works perfectly, I'll just adopt that as canon"

And personally, I LOVE the G2 esthetic, I can't get enough of it, and even though I know that all the Euro G1 characters were released during G1 and should be conscidered G1 toys, I have Zero qualms grandfathering them into my headcannon as the G2 versions of themselves. in my headcannon they were still around during G1 but they had different color schemes.
And even though Machine Wars came out after G2 was over I ignore all fiction and character names and say "Machine Wars Megatron, Megaplex, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Soundwave and Starscream are in fact the Predator Jets, Stalker and Skyquake in their pre-G2ification G1 colors much the same as MW Sandstorm and Optimus are really G1 colored Rotorstorm and Thunderclash.

 

That is one hollow shoulder gun.

These pictures confirmed my desire to cancel my pre-order for orange Jazz. Money better spent on better figures. I'm happy for those who like this, though.

 

That's just a bonus weapon, I bet it's less hollow than it looks, no good pics of his extra weapons.

 

If it is indeed the same shoulder launcher Hound comes with, I expect a massive uptick in gap filler sales.

 

Fleetway took them a step further with bolder colors, a blue purple and added orange and black accents on Hot Rod.

They also colored G2 characters like some of the Dinobots in G2 toy colors in their original content and generally had a different coloring approach than U.S. reprints.

 

Betting it's not as hollow as it looks from this angle.

 

That's okay, in my own head-canon there is no G2. If it bothers me enough, I rebadge to the ''normal'' insignias. They're either new characters or just background fodder, some generic other robots that fill in a scene or have already been blasted.

 

I like the g2 autobot and decepticon logos. The autobot logo looks like a cute little Optimus prime face and the decepticon logo is 100% more angular.

 

Those are the Marvel American colors. The first several scans are from an American issue with Sarra Mossoff's colors. She followed the same color guides Nel Yomtov did -- the only difference was that colors were bolder in the 90s printing process vs the 80s.

I do not own Fleetway comics. Here is a photo I took of that Marvel issue.

 

If anyone is interested, the Fleetway G2 comic is available online. Early issues are a weird mix of new content spliced to Marvel issues, to avoid the links to the GI Joe comic, that wind up creating an odd mix of redundant events.

Transformers Generation 2 1994 001 | Read Transformers Generation 2 1994 001 comic online in high quality. Read Full Comic online for free - Read comics online in high quality .

 

It's true the shifts in tone are partly technical but nevertheless they ARE there, as are the extra apps on Hot Rod, and those 'Bots are both sporting the G2 OP-face Autobrand. These are their G2 decos, they just so happen to be closer to the original Marvel ones as they didn't have G2 reissue toys of their own.

Now if we could just get some leaks/listings of the other fellas, please?
One needs more neon in one's TF collection!