Minor/Repaint: voyager COSMOS

Discussion in 'Radicons Customs' started by icanfly, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. icanfly

    icanfly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Posts:
    1,165
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +287
    Ebay:
    Hi,

    This is my take on Cosmos, made from crossovers War Machine with a SteamShield Shapeways head. Not quite sold on the final product so happy with any input for improvement.

    Cheers

    JL
     

    Attached Files:

  2. MCutter

    MCutter Pronounced WITH-thuh UMP-tee.

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Posts:
    621
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    207
    Location:
    Mostly Northern VA. Mostly.
    Likes:
    +291
    I quite like this use of that mold for Cosmos. He looks like he could be IDW Nautica's cousin, too.
     
  3. The Kup

    The Kup Heavy Metal

    Joined:
    May 24, 2015
    Posts:
    7,927
    News Credits:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    242
    Location:
    Tennessee
    Likes:
    +25,461
    Ebay:
    Twitter:
    Instagram:
    Flickr:
    It was if Cosmos was meant for this mold!
     
  4. Novaburnhilde

    Novaburnhilde シン・ブリュンヒルド

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2013
    Posts:
    14,946
    News Credits:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Likes:
    +23,534
    Not bad, looks pretty solid.
     
  5. red00wolf

    red00wolf Insatiable collector

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Posts:
    2,569
    Trophy Points:
    292
    Likes:
    +151
    The paint application could use improvement but still manages to look pretty nice, the head works and the idea is sound. The real flaw here is that honestly awful putty work, looks like chewing gum or silly putty quickly jammed in place, im not sure how you looked at that and decided "yeah, this is good. Lets move on to paint". I see what you were aiming for, but it looks worse for the effort. I would suggest reworking those parts, sand and smoothing everything out and really put more time into trying to get the smooth round shape you seemed to be going for. Fix that and i think you will feel a lot better about what you made here. Good luck.
     
  6. icanfly

    icanfly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Posts:
    1,165
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +287
    Ebay:
    So I gather you're not a fan of my amateur putty skills? The flash does exaggerate the imperfections but with limited tools I did it all by hand, and its main job was to act as a glue, and rounded to try to hide its presence a bit. So thank you for your input, but "honestly awful" does hurt a bit
     
  7. SteamShield

    SteamShield Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2013
    Posts:
    908
    Trophy Points:
    172
    Likes:
    +2,002
    I really like the concept. Didn't know which body you meant to use this head for until now - and that turned out well!
     
  8. knyghtmare2021

    knyghtmare2021 The Goddamn Knyghtmare

    Joined:
    May 27, 2007
    Posts:
    1,527
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Location:
    Advance, Indiana
    Likes:
    +495
    Don't let the one post discourage you! Good work!
     
  9. red00wolf

    red00wolf Insatiable collector

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Posts:
    2,569
    Trophy Points:
    292
    Likes:
    +151
    Not meant as a discouragement or to be hurtful, trying to provide some criticism to help you improve.
    Its nice to simply complement everything, but its not very helpful commentary if the aim is improvement.

    edit: yeah, rereading it, it was a little harsher then i meant to be.
     
  10. icanfly

    icanfly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Posts:
    1,165
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +287
    Ebay:
    Cheers mate all good. Do you have much experience with putty? I struggle to get it uniform in shape and usually just use it as a glue or to fill holes or minor tweaks to heads.
     
  11. kalron

    kalron Technician/Sculptor

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2008
    Posts:
    1,973
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Likes:
    +510
    Looking at this piece, specifically the wings, a better approach with a putty in this case would have been to roll a uniform tube, not too thick and run it along the inside of the wing then attach to the side. Use your finger and dip it in some water to smooth, this limits the amount of clay you have to work with while providing a complete connection point.

    Oh crap...the important part...before all that, prep by creating stands or using some random crap to prop the wing to sit flush while the putty dries. You may need to do one part at a time, and this maybe more time consuming, but you will have a better result.

    There are more advanced stuff using a Dremel to make a grove for your part to fit in, then using putty for binding. This will further lessen your "slag" leftovers and might be even more useful for this piece specifically.

    To finish, sanding or even using Styrene right over top of the putty to design as you see fit. You can also use more random crap from other bots to fill in. Just think of it this way, bonding should not be seen, but if it has to, work with it when it is pliable...or you are screwed.

    And you are correct, different lighting will show all of your imperfections, so it is useful to do that in the smoothing stage, change brighten and lessen the light around you.
     
  12. Spyne98

    Spyne98 Host of the Rock Nerd Radio Show

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Posts:
    2,930
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +737
    Ebay:
    Looks cool! It makes for a very striking alt mode. I like the robot look too.
     
  13. seanb47

    seanb47 FB: SBee's Custom Creations/ IG @Sbee_75

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Posts:
    2,804
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Location:
    Monterey CA
    Likes:
    +528
    Ebay:
    I like the idea and can see you have a clear vision in mind that you were working off of that is solid. I do feel,as already mentioned, seeing the putty like this does seem like it was rushed just to finish. You will need to invest in to some tools at some point if you want to make a honest go of this hobby. Everything mentioned above is solid advice. I don't know what putty you used but a lot of the customizers use "Aves Epoxy" or "Greenstuff" or "Milliput" as the epoxy fillers. Sometimes it maybe better to use styrene or left over fodder pieces from other bots.

    Also with your paint,it may be more helpful to take apart your figures at times to be able to gain better access to certain areas to fully cover them in the paint process. 1/16th pin punch works best to knock out pins. A soldering iron will aid you in heating up one way pins to pry out. I recommend using a "basecoat" or primer to lay down first then your main colors. Then hand paint your details from there.

    I hope you find this helpful.
     
  14. gericault

    gericault Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Posts:
    1,076
    Trophy Points:
    212
    Likes:
    +140
    Nice work; I really like the idea behind this custom!
    I'm also really glad to read so much constructive and effective criticism; that's how we all can learn from each other and make the best customs we can! :) 
     
  15. CaptainX1

    CaptainX1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2009
    Posts:
    250
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Likes:
    +5
    sand down the puttied parts. it'll look 500% better
     
  16. batmanprime

    batmanprime Omega-con

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2010
    Posts:
    1,113
    Trophy Points:
    212
    Likes:
    +151
    Ebay:
    You may want to use a two part epoxy instead of putty if you're going for a bonding agent. You get about 5 minutes of working time but you get a fairly solid bond quick then can mix up a little cat a time to use as filler. Leaves it sandable, and you can bui!LD up as you go.
     
  17. TheBeastman

    TheBeastman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2011
    Posts:
    1,521
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +825
    I think the robot mode needs a bit more paint. Not really your fault, more the fault of the original toy, but the robot mode looks really blocky and kind of looks like a man in a suit. I think some more paint would help it look a little more dynamic, esp in the chest area where the green chest really looks tacked on to the yellow part.

    Its a good proof of concept though, and its nice to see a larger cosmos.
     
  18. icanfly

    icanfly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Posts:
    1,165
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +287
    Ebay:
    I agree but can't decide what needs changing