Venom 2

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    VENOM: LET THERE BE CARNAGE Stills Spotlight The Feuding Symbiotes & Director Andy Serkis
    VENOM: LET THERE BE CARNAGE - 5 Major New Reveals From Director Andy Serkis As He Breaks Down The Trailer
    Venom 2: How Andy Serkis Created Carnage's Moves


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    So, some spoiler info here...

    ON VENOM
    According to Serkis, they've reached the "Odd Couple stage of their relationship". "They've been together for about a year and a half and they're figuring out how to be with each other. And it's like living with this maniac toddler. Eddie is really struggling. He can't concentrate. He's trying to get on with work. And he, of course, only thinks about himself anyway, on the whole."

    Serkis goes on to add that Eddie views Venom as "kind of a weird, screwed-up mirror version of himself," but how does the alien feel about their newfound dynamic?

    "Venom of course feels trapped, because he can't leave Eddie's body unless he has his permission. And when they go out, the deal is - you live in my body, you live by my rules," Serkis says. "And we're under threat. We're in a dangerous position here. We've got to keep quiet. And nobody must know because of all the things that happened in the last story, if people find out and get a grip of what's going on then we'll both be hauled into Area 51 and examined."


    ON CLETUS KASADY
    Serkis explains the similarities between Cletus Kasady and Eddie Brock as follows: "They both had strange upbringings with strange relationships with their parents and their families. And there's an inherent loneliness that they both recognize in each other."

    As for why Eddie would want to develop a relationship with Cletus, it doesn't sound like it's entirely the anti-hero's choice. "Cletus actually reaches out and will only speak to Eddie Brock. That's at the beginning of the story, we learned that he's the only one he'll speak to. And the cops, therefore, want Eddie to go in and investigate and try and discover where some of the bodies, some of the many bodies of Cletus's victims are."

    "Of course, Eddie's doing it for himself too. He wants to get in there and maybe he can make a story, get back to what he wants to do most, which is writing and the written word and being a journalist," the director teases. "So this sets up really the confrontation, or the false relationship, that Eddie sort of pretends to have with Cletus, in order to get information out of it."

    "Cletus has an extraordinary child-like but vivid imagination and mind, and he expresses himself by drawing," the director says. "His cell is completely covered with these really bizarre markings and expressions. It's like his anger and frustration and his sadness and his desperation and his loneliness."


    ON CARNAGE
    "Carnage can turn to mist (an original power). He can turn to all manner of tendrils. He can take different forms. He can weaponize, he can do all of these different things," the filmmaker reveals. "With all symbiotes, they reflect the person who is their host. So the darkness of Carnage, the playfulness, the wit, the strangeness. Cletus has a real intelligence and a real sense of humor, and we wanted to reflect that in the symbiote that is linked to him."

    "Venom is... pretty straightforward in a way. He's like a quarterback. He's very grounded, very physically sort of heavy, and like a quarterback where brute force is very much his thing," Serkis told IGN. "Whereas Carnage, in the same way that Cletus is manipulative psychologically and physically, he can take your energy and completely shift it for you. So we wanted the whole movement style to be very idiosyncratic and off-kilter and strange, and you just can't pin him down. Fighting Carnage would be like trying to have a fight with an octopus basically."

    To create Carnage's "off-kilter and strange" motions, Serkis and his team worked with a group of dancers and actors on a performance-capture stage to test and build out Carnage's movements. "It was a really exciting period of building the movie actually was Carnage movement tests. That was a really exciting part of it," he added.


    ON SHRIEK
    "She's a damaged soul and she really has suffered in her childhood, but there is a real vulnerability about her, and she's in a lot of pain," he teases. "She's been living in isolation for years, years and years."

    "With all of these characters, what's so beautifully drawn about them is that they're multi-faceted, they're totally truthful and believable, and yet. She's dangerous too and I think she has her own sense of fairness and being just, and I think when that line is crossed, then you see a very, very dangerous, dark side to her, and that's what we wanted to do with the character."
     
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    Watched the trailer and I can’t help but feel that it looks cheep and nasty. It looks like the kind of movie to confirm people’s negative stereotypes of superhero films as being dull scraps between terrible looking CGI characters while middle aged geeks take it way too seriously.

    It looks to be a clash villains and that is on principle a great idea as it gives everyone to be dastardly with hilarious lines for every character but if the vague lines and broad buddy humour was the bits they decided to pull our attention for the trailer the extremely talented cast are going to have to work very hard to lift this out of the grim dark toilet it appears in.

    It’s early days and I am hoping I’m wrong or it ends up in so bad it is hilarious territory like spider man 3 but I’m not holding my breath.
     
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    So I found one thing I'm not too fond of in regards to the design of Carnage.

    I don't really like that he's bigger / bulkier than Venom because it's kind of unnecessary? It worked with Riot in the first movie but Carnage is a slim, lanky kind of beast who makes up for his lack of muscle mass with all the weaponry he can summon from his body, him being bigger just makes it feel a bit too much like the final battle from the first movie except we also know Shriek is also a thing... Maybe the movie will prove me wrong, just a thing I noticed.

    Also maybe could've done a bit more in regards to the color so he didn't quite just look like a red tinted Venom. :lol 
     
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    He doesn't look bulky at all. He's got more tendril mass, but his actually body is pretty wiry, like it's supposed to be. He definitely doesn't have the shoulder breadth that Venom does.
     
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    Bah, I guess that's true. Maybe It's just something I'll get used to the more I see him. :lolol 

    Giving it another look, yeah I see what you mean. It also appears like Carnage has a second row of teeth, which is pretty creepy.
     
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    The writer of the most recent Venom run revealed that Sony talked to him about Venom 2, and he personally said he thought the 2nd film sounded like an improvement compared to the previous film.
     
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    An even better look at Carnage.
     
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    New trailer.

     
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    So he gets the Carnage symbionts by biting Eddie’s hand… Not sure how I feel about that. Seems pretty uninspired. I guess it works.
     
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    Pretty sweet new trailer.

    Honestly I'm not expecting much from this, but if it's like the first one I'll probably enjoy it even if it's not very good. Being able to finally see a movie about Venom and Carnage has been on my 'wants' list for awhile, so I'm sure I'll find some enjoyment in it either way.
     
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    That was quite a trailer, much better than the last one.

    Seeing live-action Kasady/Creepy is chilling. Even before he transforms, there's something ominous and off about him. And Carnage, yeesh, he looks like a living nightmare.

    It looks like he's become a half-man half-symbiote through biting Eddie/Venom. That's one unusual direction, but it cuts out any the family dynamic and keeps them as rival symbiotes.
     
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    I am liking Harrelson's performance as Casdidy. I normally thoroughly enjoy Hardy's acting but I was lukewarm on him as Brock. I liked the first movie well enough and hopefully Venom 2 doesn't suffer from sequelitis.
     
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    PfffHAHAHAHAHAHA okay, the “oh SHIT” had me dead. So much of Venom’s charm is hearing this bizarre murderous alien act like an actual human being sometimes, having a sense of humor and showing fear and self-loathing. So that was hysterical. This is gonna be bonkers.
     
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    Guess it’s time to finally see Venom 1 then?
     
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    Yeah, not the best Marvel movie, or movie in general, but the interactions between Eddie and Venom are fun.
     
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    I never saw the first one, just could never get into it. The voice acting of Venom really bugs me and instantly takes me out of the moment I'm suppose to be enjoying.

    The CGI looks pretty fun though, and Woody is always great to watch so I may watch this one.
     
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    Well they just killed any chance they had of me actually going to see it in theaters since that is the weekend Halloween Kills comes out. Halloween is going to KILL venom 2.