Unpopular toy opinions

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by NotRamjet97, Mar 28, 2015.

  1. loof

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    I really don’t like Generations Warpath. He’s a neat enough design, but he’s just not Warpath at all. He looks badass, but Warpath is not badass. Warpath is a childish goofball.

    And continuing on from that, Warpath should not be a chunky bruiser/brawler. Just because he transforms into a tank doesn’t mean he should be massive. At that point it’s just not Warpath anymore.
     
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    What a coincidence, I actually just put Generations Warpath on my "to get" list because of his look and his proportions.

    In terms of character I like Animated Warpath the best. Shame we never got a toy.
     
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  3. Leopold Xerovsky

    Leopold Xerovsky Loves cheap thrills

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    "Let me get this straight, you think all a toy needs is a consistent head sculpt and color scheme for it to fit a character?"

    "Yes, and I'm tired of pretending alt modes matter."
     
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  4. Kaynowa

    Kaynowa #MakeTransformersStupidAgain

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    I'd argue even head sculpts are up for debate. Many characters have different ones to choose from like Blaster and Bumblebee, and locking only one style in just loses some creativity
     
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  5. Zentropy

    Zentropy Toys > Fiction

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    So you choose "childishly goofy" over badass? Really?

    If I judged a toy's collectability based on its adherence to the cartoon character, I wouldn't bother collecting at all. To each their own, but the Sunbow interpretation is an inconsequential factor in my buy-or-not-to-buy decisions. IMO, the cartoon was a diluted and often dumbed-down adaptation of a much more interesting fiction. I always choose the toy that best matches my head canon for the character-- I don't let a childhood TV show determine the details.
     
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  6. Preach Starscream

    Preach Starscream Well-Known Member

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    Why not? These are toys after all.

    There's room for goofiness and badassness in the world of Transformers.
     
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  7. Zentropy

    Zentropy Toys > Fiction

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    Which is why I said "To each their own." I'm just surprised, not judgmental. I personally find Sunbow Warpath ridiculously unappealing. The cartoon depictions are typically low on my list of preferred versions for most characters, though.
     
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    Preach Starscream Well-Known Member

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    That's cool. The cartoon depictions are my definitive versions for the characters. There were some great mixes of cool, fun, funny, and bad ass.
     
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  9. Zentropy

    Zentropy Toys > Fiction

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    I completely get that. It’s exactly what makes the current Masterpiece figures so popular with many, but not with me. I’ve been continuously refining my TF head canon for over 30 years, and while it’s a mix of many things, the cartoon doesn’t influence it nearly as much as do the original toy tech specs and my own adolescent and adult musings. For me, it’s always been a very selfish fiction. The Sunbow production never satisfied my more elaborate/realistic takes on the characters.

    “My” Warpath is far too vain and proud to allow himself to be perceived as “goofy”, and far too strong, skilled, and massive (I like real-world scaling) to be anything but a badass.
     
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  10. maloney4playz

    maloney4playz tfp enjoyer, waspinator appreciator

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    honestly, i just think that ER cliffjumper is much worse than arcee. in fact the whole mold is worse. the only bad thing about arcee is the shellforming. but its also an arcee that was produced in the middle of a worldwide crisis. cliffjumper is just lazy. if you have to take only one part of a toy and remove it whilst the majority of it transforms normally, then it is a bad toy.
     
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    Unpopular opinion: Fossilizers are a monumental waste of resources, and have no place in a Transformers line.

    That said, if they were their own line, I might feel differently.
     
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    A fix for that could be headmasters.
     
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    I'd be down but I don't have the energy for the inevitable reeee-ing from the fandom at large about non-legacy gimmicks
     
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    halo4361 Float like a butterfly, sting like a manta ray

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    I really like the studio series bike sisters. I just love that they combine. That's something I've wanted for years. I was pretty disappointed when I found out that the originals didn't. (In all honesty, I don't even think they knew what they were doing there.)
     
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    Zentropy Toys > Fiction

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    I had to move much of my collection recently because of a pending room remodel, and it gave me a good chance to compare many of the figures I have (I mostly collect MP/3P). I'm not sure which figure I could say is my absolute favorite, but my favorite Masterpiece is MP-18B ("Blue" Bluestreak). I'm a fan of the Datsun Hasui mold in general, but in those colors... wow, he's just fantastic. I'm guessing he doesn't rank highly on many collector lists, but he has serious presence on my shelf.
     
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    Organic-Headmasters, Powermasters, and Pretenders are dumb ideas.

    Targetmasters are really the only thing that makes a little bit of sense, considering Megatron needs someone else to fire him in gun mode, but even that feels shakey conceptually.

    Cybertronian-Headmasters and Brainmasters are slightly less dumb, but at the same time it shifts the idea of Transformers more towards piloted mecha, which on its own I don't dislike, but it doesn't fit well for Transformers.

    I'm not strictly against the idea of gimmicks, but something that makes a Transformer reliant on a secondary character just to transform outside of combiners just feels very iffy to me.
     
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  17. artiepants

    artiepants Transformers '84!!!

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    The WFC3 ankle tilts really aren't that useful.

    I don't want to knock any point of articulation, but that side-to-side ankle tilt just isn't all that useful without any form of front/back tilt. In general, if legs have decent articulation, I feel like front/back is actually more useful for achieving good action poses. Only having side to side is barely better than the figures that had the sculpted angled ankles for a permanent A-stance.
     
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    Having front to back as well would definitely be nice but saying side to side is only slightly better than sculpted angled ankles is way wrong imo. Those sculpted angles sucked for everything except a-stance. Being able to tilt side to side just opens so many more options. Yeah, its not as many as front to back as well, but honestly, if I had a choice between side to side and front to back, it would be side to side every time.
     
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  19. Metro Prime

    Metro Prime No sympathy for the self-inflicted

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    I have to agree with you. If my PotP Rodimus had side tilt instead of front to back, I wouldn't have had to super glue his feet in place to keep him from falling over. Tolerances have much to do with this particular debate I believe. Because not all ankle adjustments are bad, but they are better than most fixed ankles for me.
     
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    artiepants Transformers '84!!!

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    maybe? I'm just not finding that they can do a whole lot aside from some slightly more dynamic variation on the "permanent A stance" - I feel like I find more creative poses with some of the guys that have forward and/or backward built in due to their transformation

    Maybe that's it, forward/backward gives more creative options, even if it's not necessarily what you'd want to use for a line up. All I know is, I've got Uni. 2.0 Hound and Sideswip on my desk plus some WFC3 figs and those 2 school them for posting with their all-direction ankles.
     
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