unicron theory

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by Crazy Ramjetty, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. Crazy Ramjetty

    Crazy Ramjetty marvel's got it good

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    okay in episode 24 it told us all about the classic story of primus'es creation of the thirteen primes to defeat unicron (which they succeeded) it also said that primus became cybertron. it didn't exactly say that unicron became earth (he's much larger than earth) so what if some dark energon escaped his body (primus stabbed his arm or something) then the dark energon solidified and rock formed around it to become earth. and the reason why he had those "avatars" is because unicron can still conect with dark energon even if it's outside his body. it would explain the global disasters, megatron seeing a silhouette of unicron's face and how optimus fought a mini unicron made of rock (right?) any one else think so or would like to contribute?
     
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    sorry bro but it did say that Unicron became Earth. Ratchet even says that while Unicron was in slumber that derbies, dust and what not must have collected around him in turn creating Earth. Unicron is at Earth's center just as Primus is at Cybertron's center.
     
  3. Crazy Ramjetty

    Crazy Ramjetty marvel's got it good

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    but their supposed to be planet sized, how can they be at the center of cybertron and earth if they are not planet sized. in the cybertron cartoon, primus IS cybertron, not locked in the center, metal debris didn't float on top of primus to form cybertron
     
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    not to mention he also says that the metal ores in the planet act as his arms and legs.
     
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    Gee, I dunno? Maybe it's because in TF Prime continuity, Primus and Unicron aren't planet sized??? :eek: 

    This isn't the Cybertron cartoon. And debris collected around UNICRON, not Primus.

    "Primus became one with the very core of our planet, creating life through the Well of Allsparks."
     
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    Primus united with Cybertron as its core. Rocks and such gathered around Unicron until a planet formed. They're definately smaller than previous incarnations. Not that hard to comprehend.
     
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    Well if he makes up the earth or is the earth, I think that makes him pretty big right?
     
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    snowball effect. I'm sure he's large, larger than any other transformer we've seen thus far, but definitely NOT planet sized like in Gen 1.

    So, Primus and the 13 beat the hell out of him, Unicron floats through space, collecting rocks and such around his unconscious body and eventually begins to orbit a star, our sun. Over the millennium, more debris and matter collect on his body, eventually forming the planet Earth. During this process, I'm assuming, his physical body is broken down and turns into the metal ore and other elements we find on Earth.

    As Optimus surmised, Unicron evolved into a being of pure energy, but still has some kind of connection with his dissolved physical form, hence his ability to simply appear in a rock and make more of himself out of the environment around him.
     
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    The way I understood the primus and unicron stuff was this:

    Primus became the allspark, dividing parts of his essence and lifeforce to create more transformers. Unicron was rendered unconscious in the battle with the 13, eventually being caught in the primordial suns gravitational pull. Slowly pieces of space dust began to covers Unicron until he became the Earth. Maybe his body remains, maybe all that remains is his spark and dark energon. It's hard to know. We'll just have to keep watching to find out.
     
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    maybe they will both end up planet sized. primus has merged with cybertron(which may or may not have built) so he already is planet sized. if you read unicrons origin in the marvel uk story legacy of unicron, it shows him as a baron planet sized rock which he shapes and grows out of and maybe they could do something similar here. So maybe we could get a planet sized unicron, earth sized to be precise
     
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    Dammit brony, In this alternity they are merely powerful ancient robotic organisms, one was a scientist and created advanced robots, who he called the primes, one was emotional and thrived on destruction, his body eventually changing to feed on the darkness of destruction, the primes defeated him and he was cast into space, in stasis with crystallized blood, eventually drawing rocks and debris to him with his dark power so he became earth, though his body merged with earth over time as his power changed him to an ethereal being, withcontrol over creating a body of earth in addition to having his old body fused with earth, thus effectively becoming our God.


    Primus likely became integrated into the hyper-mechanized moon sized world like a computer chip, and has since been continuing to maintain the process that creates life inside of robots through a spark.





    Who made those two though?
     
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    because different continuities are different.
     
  13. Crazy Ramjetty

    Crazy Ramjetty marvel's got it good

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    but their supposed to be multiversial singularities, how can I believe unicron is a multiversial singularity if he already died in two other universe (cybertron and g1)
     
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    how is it that hard to accept? this Unicron is in a different continuity, therefore he is DIFFERENT. this isnt G1 or Cybertron, it`s Transformers: Prime.
     
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    I generally take what Hasbro says about multiversal continuity with a grain of salt. Unless the stories where originally written to interact with each other, It's kinda pointless trying to shoe horn them all together.
     
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    The law of gravity dictates that the size of an object dictates its attraction rate. In the void of space, assuming he was much far away from any planet sized objects and his carcass in orbit around the small star which would become known as Sol, space dust and asteroids would have slowly accumulated over unicron's body (which had been reduced in size drastically after his defeat (though he would have still been three times as large as mount Everest)). Over millions of years and the creation of the other planets in the Sol system Unicron would have become the core of the planet called Sol 3 (AKA Earth)
     
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    Actually Unicron is never technically killed in any G1 continuity. Unicron has only been killed once but he was revived by Planet X Soundwave.
     
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    The whole multiversal singularity thing is a bit confusing, but if I'm not mistaken Hasbro once said that every time Unicron "dies" in one continuity, he starts again in a new one...or something like that.
     
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    Simple, he has one body in every universe but his consciousness transcends it. Essentially killing one is the equivalent of removing the limb from a tree.
     
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    Ok let us say that in the transformers cannon there exists a beginning universe, a original, where EVERY Character has existed, now for characters like Optimus Prime and Megatron, lets say that these Original Characters are used as templates for which new ones are based off even if they look the same and have the same story they are not the same character. Meanwhile Characters like the Fallen, Unicron and Primus are all the same character but with a different form and backstory to fit the way the current universe unfolded, now even if these characters look completely different and don't have the same body they would be the same in TF: Prime as they would be in G1 or Cybertron, they can be destroyed in each universe because they will always exist in some other time and place