Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by payres, Sep 10, 2016.
Wow. Why did they change it
Maybe a misguided attempt at contemporalising it, or a bit of IP cowardice. Maybe a bit of both?
Kind of undermines the whole fully collecting the UK stories as a document angle don't it?
Sure does. Even if its supposed to reference Boris Johnston it still looks like Richard branson who in story would've been the only one with the personal resources to dig up Megatron and centurion out of the Thames.
I mean the volumes are full of actual BTS TF History and then they go and literally erase a bit of it (I mean as well as the text they left out of Plight of the Bumblebee)!
Definitive my Aft!
There's a lot more to it then that. Back in 88 or so when this issue was out Branson was in the middle of a keep Britain tidy campaign. Artist Lee Sullivan drew a quick likeness of Branson for the story. Marvel UK then contacted bransons office with a formal request to feature him in the story.v
Which they agreed to as it was great publicity.
Annoying that they changed it.v
That is just ridiculous. I remember this guest appearance getting some news attention back in the day, and it isn't even a negative representation, so what's the point of changing it? Bunch of muppets.
Definitely pondering dumping this shambolic enterprise to nab the 5 volumes of UK Classics (which still have Branson's appearance) and the IDW Marvel Reprints instead.
Good point, I wonder what's changed since the Classics UK print.
I know there have been issues with wrongly auto-corrected text, but is this the first time they've actually deliberately altered the original artwork?
AFAIK yes, IIRC I think in the other cases such as panels or pages edited to bridge into the UK stories they included the original US pages and showed the altered panel separately?
This is just...bizarre. Titan and IDW never had an issue. I wonder if Hachette are being overly-cautious or whether Branson/Virgin decreed a "no"? The latter seems unlikely that he/they would even care...
I've got them as well, mind you, I've got pretty much everything Marvel TF, as I'm a bit of a fan
It's annoying that of the three primary ways to enjoy the Marvel saga in reprint form - Titan, IDW and Hachette - neither are truly complete or definitive. Titan annoyingly left out a few issues of both the US/UK run, IDW have canned the UK Classics now (and the reprinting of them was especially poor) and Hachette have made some odd sequence choices (e.g. US #39-40 in the same volume as the UK issues that immediately follow, yet PUBLISHED AFTER THEM!) and done things like this...
It's certainly a rather haphazard take on 'definitive'.
Lee Sullivan is discussing it on a Facebook thread... he did the alterations himself apparently, so at least it's the original artist!
Did he say why he had to do so?
They did have a page showing both versions of the Circuit Breaker intro (even though both are included in their respective issues). They mention a UK alternative to the first page of 'New Order' but don't include it (probably a legal thing, as it was a still from a tv show IIRC).
That kind of thing bugs me too, as it's completely avoidable. There's no logic to it. I picked up the Dinobot Hunt volume to read recently and was three parts into it before I realised there were US issues at the back of the book that are set before (i.e. before Prime even gets his head back!). Likewise 'End of the Road', the last ever US issue, was also the last ever UK print. Yet Hachette chuck the Earthforce UK stories after it so that their whole collection of Marvel G1 ends on an obscure short story from UK #289.
Any word on why, or how he felt about being asked to do such a thing? Newly coloured b&w strips are understandable (and actually have made the Earthforce material much more enjoyable), but tampering with the art and changing names this many years after the fact is... a bit dodgy to say the least.
Got a link to the post or thread where he discusses it?
has ALL the black and white issues been colored and Released now ?
If so, what volumes should I be looking for ?
They're going too far with these revisions.
Sorry for the delay, here you go. Now with some quotes from Furman clarifying why this happened:
Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection
I must admit I am calming down a bit on this now. Partly because it was Lee himself who made the alterations; partly, as Chris mentioned in the Facebook post, it's kind of a cool 'alternate' version (it would be annoying if we were to assume this collection is "definitive", but surely nobody really believes that anymore, right?); partly because I have the original version 3 or 4 different ways, so a 'different' version feels isn't the end of the world.
And finally, anything that inspired all these highly amusing Mr Johnson photoshops can't be all bad!!
The memes have been grand but I could still live without the whole 'Branson Pickle'!
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