Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by K2flygurl, Nov 15, 2019.
Does this stem from when people using guns loose to someone with a sword or spear?
No, I don't mind that because it shows how skilled they are against gun users, but it's when the characters need to say out loud guns are stupid during a fight that ticks me off like in Black Panther with Okya calling them primitive when she's using a spear she needs to throw and especially Star Wars when Obi Wan ended his long ass battle with Grevious by blasting him with 2 shots and then pompously tosses the thing that saved his life and calls it "uncivilized".
To be fair to Okya, she has a spear that shoots lasers (granted not in Black Panther but they were in Infinity War, so assuming it's the same weapon). But yeah, I find it annoying when guns are dismissed as primitive for spears and swords. I'm ok with comments about them being less civilised, as swords and spears are associated with upper class gentry and whatnot, but don't call them primitive.
Flintlock pistols are classy guns in my book if we're using modern guns as a comparison.
Yeah, I'll give you that. I was just thinking of modern day guns, forgot about the Flintlock style.
The one that irks me lately is the “hero is now a bad guy” or “hero is now broken, world weary &/or cynical.”
Dracula The Undead is a sequel novel written by Stoker’s great grand nephew, Dacre Stoker, and picks up 7 years after the end of Dracula. Except now all the heroes are washed up drunks or abusive husbands.
Bionic Commando on PS3 recasts the once heroic “Rad” Spencer as a wrongly imprisoned criminal, who just hates everything now. Also his dead wife’s soul powers his bionic arm.
I know there was a recent example that got me thinking about this, but it escapes me at the moment.
I hate TV tropes.com. Terrible site that only serves to get the boo-hoo crowd stirred up.
That said, the groundhogs day and the "you're crazy, your life is delusion" episodes of every scifi series tend to annoy me, even if done right.
The black nerd trope is starting to get annoying. Now I'm not saying black people can't be experts in "nerdy" fields like computers, etc. (I work in the IT field and our previous email specialist was one of the nerdiest black guys I've ever seen), but it's obvious the trope has become a token character.
Y’know what I hate?
In law enforcement shows like Law & Order or NCIS, they often come across security camera footage that needs to be “enhanced”. Well, when it’s enhanced, suddenly tiny license plate numbers or people’s faces that were a big blur appear as clear as if someone had taken a close-up with their digital camera, with no pixelation.
Security footage does not have that high a resolution, and enhancing it could never give you such a clear image of something so small. It’s totally unrealistic.
As they're titled on the site, for ease of reference, I'm frequently annoyed by "Poor Communication Kills", often as a result of "Cannot Spit it Out": when the narrative strains the suspension of disbelief in dragging out some relatively innocuous plot detail, that often results in relationships getting stressed or torn asunder at the least, or people actually dying as a result at the most extreme. There are ways to write and prolong a good mystery/suspense plot, but when it hinges upon the act of someone keeping their trap shut beyond all reasonable limits, it becomes infuriating. Your personal embarrassment is not worth the emotional trainwreck you caused around you for the last 13 episodes, especially if it also results in loss of life through your inaction.
Once the secrets come to light, the character in question rarely receives the comeuppance they deserve because all they committed was an "innocent" crime.
How about those "built up to be boss, but goes out like a b****" trope? That silver storm trooper in the new star wars movies come to mind. Also Adam in RWBY.
"It's either the nerdy black guy or the nerdy asian!"
"Why can't the nerd be the girl?"
"Because nerdy girls don't exist!!!"
"Yes they can! It's a movie"
"IT WILL BE IN THE REALM OF DISBELIEF IF WE DID THAT!!! NOW CHOOSE THE NERD THAT EV-ELMO WILL STRANGLE WITH A BIKINI INTO A SPORK!!!"
...How my mind wanders, even I don't know....
Whatever you do, do NOT get me started on the Women Are Delicate tropes...PLEASE. >.<
"Males are the Expendable Gender" is one that usually pops up first when asked such questions.
Nothing in spears ever made them associated with upper classes only. They were always considered the most basic, entry-level weapons next to weighted clubs. Levies and peasantry weapons.
The fun part about those tropes is that melee weapons are actually much more cruel and butchery than firearms. They only look more decorative and prettier. There's no equivalent of fractal or rubber bullets for swords. Spears are even worse.
Star Wars gets a pass because lightsabers are more advanced development of the same principle that is used for blasters. They're also more powerful.
I don't know the history, I just know manors, palaces, upper class gentry and whatnot tend to have spears and things like that on their walls and on display cabinets. Guns, not so much. That's why I said that. If it's not true... *shrug*.
Because everyone was using them, so polearms are most common survivors. Lots of those used on display also are hunting weapons and hunting was for aristocracy.
Your character can kill anything it wants by fists, arrows, spears or just anything and it's fine. But when it uses a gun and oh no now it's suddenly evil.
Yup. Comic characters get a free pass for slashing people with swords, weapons designed ONLY to disable by killing or crippling, but guns are bad.
This is why I loved it in the Deathstroke ongoing when Wade Wilson called it out about heroes using swords.
F**k Deadpool joke name. I always get these two mixed.
Separate names with a comma.