Additionally, they've been pushing G1 designs so consistently since the mid 00s that they are pretty much the de-facto designs regardless of it being there for the '80s fans. The fans of Bayverse just aren't that numerous, sad to say. I'd like to see Bayverse concluded via novel or comic because those are generally better than the movies. I like Bayverse more than a lot of people but I gotta say this; it's not a very good franchise, even from the beginning it wasn't that good. Bayverse doesn't even really have that much established lore until the end. I've called Bayverse a poisoned well before and that's the most apt description of that franchise; BB was even harmed by the domestic perception that this was another Bayverse film, and hatred of Bayverse and Michael Bay goes beyond this franchise's fans; a common joke among fans of other 80s properties is "lol if we get a movie adaptation it's gonna be a shitty Michael Bay movie."; even if fans of Bayverse still exist in this fandom and in all honesty they really aren't that numerous compared to almost any other part of the franchise, hatred of Bayverse transcends TF. Is this bait? It's gotta be bait. If not ROTF is a mess on every level of production. The only thing worth saving from ROTF is my big Unicycle boi and Sideswipe but that's only for design. If you think any of ROTF's jokes landed then that's a big oof.