I just bought Magmatron...and it is a pretty difficult toy to Transform. I dont feel like it is the kind of toy you end up transforming often. I am looking on the back of the box, and notice that Magmatron is rated as having an advanced difficulty level. If Mag is advanced..who in the heck is expert?!?!? Does someone know which transfomers have recieved expert difficulty levels?

 

UNicron, Supreme Starscream, Omega Supreme/Sentinal, Probably Primus

I know those for sure, Anything in the leader($40USD) and up is probably expert. I think it goes by size more than transformation. I believe some that feel like oversize micromasters have already been given 3's and 4's on Hasbro's scale

 

This is certainly not a complete list, but a quick check of some of my boxes reveals the following:

RID Prime, RID Magnus, Cyb. Prime, Cyb. Megatron, Energon Prime, Energon Megatron, Armada Prime, Armada Megatron. Now, all of these I've listed here are rated on the boxes as being a 4 out of 4 on the difficulty scale. However, for anyone that has them and has made Omega Prime, the RID Prime and RID Magnus are a total BEYOTCH to combine (much more so than these other posers). Maybe Hasbro just likes to give their big expensive figs, on average, "Expert" ratings. One look at Supreme Starscream, who is rated as a 4 out of 4, indicates to me that the TF rating is more of a marketing ploy than anything. Seriously, I've played with Go-Go-Go Bots that are harder to TF than him.

 

I have a Japanese Magmatron and I have no trouble with it at all...(I'm slow, just realized that)

 

Magmatron is not super easy to transform but can be figured out. Same for Tripredacus/Tripledacus. I will receive Magnaboss soon, I wonder how it'll be... Landfill is a bit sketchy to transform.

 

Magnaboss is fairly simple. I figured it out when I was 5-ish

 

They want you to think bigger = difficult = better so BUY ME.

 

It didn't used to be.

Although personally, I'm quite biased, and probably wouldn't know an "expert" level Transformer if it hit me in the face, I've yet to encounter any real difficulties for any TF I've ever bought, and I'll usually have them all puzzled out in 5-10 minutes without the instructions.

 

Same with me.

Alt Grimlock wasn't very difficult at all for me to do, I still have the instructions in the little baggie.  
Most people have trouble with him... though I am good at puzzles, so that may be it.

 

I still don't understand people's trouble with the Grimjack mold. You just have to be aware of how the parts interact. I honestly have more trouble with Alt Smokescreen.

 

Those are some of the easiest, what just because it's big means it's hard to transform?

 

If you are 5 years old and the toy is almost as big as you it could be hard...

 

I find someones like Alternators and Magmatron fairly difficult. Somelarge ones can be difficult, but often are not.. sometimes a small one can be a pain in the ass while a large one isn't.

 

Hence aksmth's comment "it's arbitrary". Since Armada, the difficulty levels haven't been assigned by actual difficulty level, but merely by size class. Let alone the fact that some Minicons had more complex transformations than a Mega-sized toy. The ratings scale, for the most part, was accurate throughout BW-RiD.

 

It would definately not apply to the BWNeo line.. Even the basics are a bitch to transform. Deadend, Bazooka, Mach Kick, Break, etc. All are a total pain in the ass to transform.

 

It's not "arbitrary", the ratings are heavily tied to the pricepoint. They don't truely reflect the transforming difficulty.

 

I do not see how Primus could be Expert level. He is so easy to transform.

 

Like everyone else said, IT IS BY PRICE POINT!!!!

Note: this is someone who STILL can't transform Unicron correctly