Transformers: War For Cybertron Trilogy: Siege Trailers

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by pie125, Feb 22, 2020.

  1. Rumblestorm

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    2) Hasbro has aknowledged that older fans are also a major audience for them, hence the whole idea behind Studio Series, The Machinima Series, and WFC so the argument that "iTs JsT 4 KiDz" isn't really valid. Unfortunately a lot of those, not all, but most, have failed to do what they set out to do.
    3) You said it, not me. Also, if you haven't seen any shows beyond G1 and Cyberverse I don't feel as if you can really have a say in this considering that one is cheese blinded with 80's nostalgia and the other caters to people with low attention spans and dont mind low-quality. No offense to those who enjoy it, but I mean.. 4833c1525cb7cd53665ef3d639b33584.gif 20200312_124710.jpg
    Come on.
    4) Agreed. I just want a good show.
     

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    1) No, I just know that a show or movie can cater all ages and not suck.
    2) Yes, because other franchises, like Marvel or DC, can pull it off, then so can we. We have no legitimate excuse. Its not impossible to cater to all ages and actually have good media.
    3) You know what, you're right! I think that as franchise we should continue this thread of depicting shows with a lazy rushed sparknotes feel to the way they tell their stories, talentless VA's, and little depth in story and character. Who tf said anything about humping legs? Is that what you pass off as high quality?
    4) Yes, I am from the future. But thats irrelevant because in the past when I saw the trailers I saw a bunch of red flags. Like damn, if the trailer shows off poor quality then it shows off poor quality. Now, grant it, at the end of the day I do believe one has to watch most or all of something to form a concrete and valid opinion of it, but so far based off of enough things from the trailer, this show doesn't look promising.
    5) Mainstream stores, comicbook shops, nerdy shops in general. Transformers almost always gets looked over. Heck, Ive met people who didnt even know that there was a franchise beyond the Bay films. This franchise does not get the attention it should be getting and honestly I blame it on Hasbro (and Paramount) for not doing any better.

    Damn, I don't know why the idea that a series can cater to all ages and doesn't have to suck seems like such an impossible thing to achieve for some y'all.
    Some of y'all all just take whatever Hasbro throws at you.
     
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  3. Rumblestorm

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    Yes, thats what I was talking about when I said the previous films put Bumblebee in a bad spot, even though it was actually good.
    But a technicality is a technicality. Bumblebee should have earned a lot more considering its from a major blockbuster franchise.

    Its like getting a C in school.
    Sure, you passed, but barely.
     
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    Yes, I've seen shows that cater to all ages. Some even have toys sold as a byproduct of their being an entertainment property. Transformers is the inverse.

    Marvel and DC are in a unique position where their entire media push is NOT to sell toys implicitly, but to raise exposure to their comics. They get some royalties from the toys but they don't have any motivating drive to make them marketable through their media. We're also looking at a media source that's consistently PG-13, which Transformers series' can NOT be.

    Okay, I'm going to need you to define "sparknotes" as you've used it repeatedly now and there's no context to pull from other than it's somehow bad.

    As you've touted the Movieverse repeatedly in this thread, the "leg humping" is in reference to that. In a kids' franchise. You should poll how many parents were thrilled with that part of the "quality", but I'd say the drop in ticket sales speaks volumes there.

    Remember this fan favorite show called Transformers: Animated? Remember how the choppy and poorly executed animation was picked up on by the fandom at large and brought up in threads before the episodes had even aired? Remember how the storyline came through and, while still divisive, managed to sway people with the quality of writing behind the show? You know, things you can't pick up from a 2 minute or less long trailer? Yeah, we all remember that...

    First off, I'm positive you've met uber nerds with access to the internet that are completely unaware of the franchise outside of Bay's movies.

    Second, if that IS true, wouldn't the onus for lack of quality be on the Bay films since they didn't motivate those people to seek out any other information? Or it could be a strawman argument attempting to somehow hammer the point home that only a PG-13 minimum franchise can garner any sort of attention in your circles. Either/or.

    OR

    5-10 year old kids like what Hasbro is doing. You know, the target demographic. Never forget that you are participating in a kids' franchise, period. Any money off of neckbeards is added graft, but we don't carry lines. The entertainment is reflective of that since it exists SOLELY to move said toy lines.

    Gravity Falls was great, for example, but it wasn't tied to shilling plastic which gave it the freedom to BE great. A Transformers show is explicitly a marketing campaign, nothing more, and its... safeness? Yeah, safeness... is its predominant quality for Hasbro's investment.
     
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    a bit dissapointed vince didn't get to be composer, hopefully he gets hired for an upcoming movie since paramount has finally realized there is a market for being super nostalgic
     
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    This. I don't know why the whole "Bumblebee was a flop/underperformance" thing keeps getting parroted over the past couple months. Was Bumblebee a smash hit? No. Will Hasbro and Paramount probably want future movies to make closer to DOTM-level money? Absolutely. But Bumblebee was factually a success. "Solidly profitable". It wasn't expected to make DOTM-level money. And Hasbro and Paramount certainly wouldn't be leaning into Bumblebee as an approach for future movies if it wasn't solidly profitable.
     
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    For once I agree with you on something.
     
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    @Rumblestorm Look man no one's arguing about wanting greatly made TF shows/series of any sorts. We all do however we also need to remember that in the end Transformers is a glorified toy commercial that Hasbro despite wanting to be more then just a toy company still wants to keep that intact in some form or another. Even fan favorites such as Beast Wars aren't excluded from this. What we can do is to hope that future shows will be greatly written to also be solid shows as well as effective toy commercials as well as hope for the ones coming now will end up being at least decent enough to like if not outright great. Yeah we don't always get what we want from Hasbro but that also applies to life in general.
     
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    On a slightly related point. Is it just me or is Hasbro/Netflix missing a golden opportunity to have both demographics (older/younger audiences) see the new WFC series? With the shelter in place laws in effect for some time to come, this would be a great opportunity to expand both bases with people searching for new streaming content. I know many of us have put a solid dent in our various streaming queues, so dropping S1 of WFC would be perfect timing. It may also help clear the store shelves of WFC:S merchandise as well! Unless the show ends up being hot mess

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    Maybe if the series does well enough, we can get more than 6 short episodes
     
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    They have all of those on Tubi for free. As someone who was born on the tale end of the 80s this is my first opportunity to watch everything. As a kid I could only get my hands on old VHs tapes of S1 at blockbuster. So it's cool being able to watch it in its entirety. In addition to the ones you mentioned they have the armada trilogy, beast machines, and animated. Noticeably missing is 2001 RID. It's going to be fun because a lot of this content I will be viewing for the first time.
     
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    The name is also "War for Cybetron", i don't play the game, but look how the IDW comic are, hear the project come from Netflix, i was expect something else, not this, i expect new toy. So Hasbro absolutely hate the idea of making their own in cybetron or comic's design toy ? they just want to make rehash G1 mold again ? Don't they think kid get bored already with the same toy again and again, and again ? because i did
    Also, this seem like isn't a very big budget project. compare with what you can find with Nextlix original. I used to think the same and disappointed with Voltron (it is not terrible, just slow pacing, not enough of fight scene, episodic), and this look not even as good as Voltron. I know it not big so i don't compare it to something like Love dead + Robot
     
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    So, we're a day away from June. Any news on the release date?
     
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    Nickster563 Bring back the Universe line!

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    They already have earthrise planned along with another season for the third part of the Trilogy.
     
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    Well hopefully they increase everything for the following seasons, run time, season length etc
     
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    ...judging from hasbro's recent history, probably after the final wave of WFC3 is warming shelves and the next trilogy of toys are rolling out to general retail...
     
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