Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by pie125, May 21, 2017.
His hand print should have a detonator in it. Cause .
I think that they are already demonstrating how things are connected, thanks to the trailers:
The Knights coat of arms has this engraved words:
"Nullum sacrificium, sine victoria"
The latin words for the phrase:
"No sacrifice, no victory"
Even Sir Edmound Burton referes to these words in the first trailer:
"It has been said, through the ages, that wihout sacrifice, there is can be no victory"
This is the Witwicky motto from the first movie, and the Order of which Sir Edmund Burton is part, is called "of the Witwiccans". Strange, no?
And, well, the Ark, that not only appears, but ends up destroyed by Cybertron.
Wait a minute, a Energon Detector from DotM????
None cares about a Energon Detector, right? We don't care about a so little, forgettable detail from the third movie, or I have wrong?
Sincerly, these three "referring elements" were very unexpected for me, because they are ignorable details.
A motto said in one movie, a crashlanded ship with no more importance and a piece of technology that was took in consideration for one second in the only movie it appeared, are in the trailers.
These kind of things aren't so common in a Tranformers movie.
Here's the link to the video regarding this.
If TF5 ends up being shit, I can't imagine you'll take it well.
The little references are cool, and I didn't even notice that energon detector before.
The crashes ship on the moon was also nice to see. But sadly being destroyed wasn't what I wanted. Surely we'll see the nemesis too.
What I'm more interested in are things The Fallens brothers and how they'll be connected with the knights. Unless we're suppose to figure that out.
From what I've gathered (or on what's written in the interviews) it looked like Hasbro/Paramount had a general concept of where they wanted to take the franchise. Akiva Goldsman seems to be responsible for the direction, he's also the one who wrote (or planned) the sequel to AOE. The writers did not come with everything; according to Ken Nolan, they had a crash course on Transformers (and preexisting mythology) and were tasked with writing a treatment for a specific period of time in history of Transformers (and humans). It looks like they were not there to be planners, but to fill in the blanks. This way Ken Nolan is responsible for the Arthurian part of the story, Art Marcum and Matt Holloway for the WWII part, and apparently that makes the person responsible for the Quintessa, mind-controlled Optimus, as well as Cade and Izzy to be Akiva Goldsman. At least that's what I came up with
Taking in consideration that we will learn the origins of Cybertron, we will understand how things gone billions of years ago.
The Knights of Cybertron aren't a common idea in the Transformers franchising, they exist only in the IDW comics, where is told that they are the most ancient cybertronians, the first transformers to live on Cybertron, before the Thirteen Primes.
It will be very interesting to learn their story, understanding also why they came to Earth, why they have to protect our world.
The Writers Room expanded the mythology of the Transformers started from the previous four movies, and using the source material (cartoon series and IDW comics). Hasbro also sent some "Transformers historians" to teach them about the various incarnations.
On this way, the writers built the mythology, starting from 14 billions of years ago, to the current days.
As said in the interview, they took:
1- Akiva Goldsman's Transformers 5 story (clearly directly connected with the Creators, the origins of Transformers etc.)
2- Ken Nolan's arthurian story
3- A. Marcum and M. Holloway WWII story
Also, from what the producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura said to Collider, we know also that they took two pieces of the mythology and put them togheter to build the movie. Practically, two storylines based on this two pieces of mythology, that, with the advancement of the plot, will become one thing. Here two extracts to clearify:
"[ ] And this movie, the two lines of mythology in a sense give you freedom to go a lot of different places later on that may or may not directly relate to another movie, but it’s opening up the universe in a way that I think, in that way it’s probably the most provocative, in terms of the movie. It’s opening a really large universe of what Transformers is, and where they’ve come from, and how we relate to them, and how they relate to themselves."
"They’re part of the same mythology, but the fact that these two pieces could interrelate, and have quite a span in time in which we’re trying to draw from–one is, in the Transformer’s mythology, billions of years ago, and one is hundreds of years ago, so in that sense, those two ideas came together. At first, we thought maybe they were two different movies, and then they came together."
At the IMAX event of the 4th April, in a video Michael Bay said that they took all the best ideas from all the 14 writers to built The Last Knight.
There is a giant work behind.
The Authurian and WWII stuff looks like it's going to be pretty minor. It seems like the bulk of the movie will deal with "evil" Optimus trying to use Earth to restore Cybertron and the struggle to stop him with his eventual redemption.
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