Transformers: The Last Knight - Did It Flop??

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  1. ZeroiaSD

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    Due to hollywood accounting it's really hard to tell exactly where the crossover point for profit is.

    Hey, they might even make a pittance!
     
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    The general rule of thumb is to multiply the budget by two for a rough estimate of actual money spent, especially since TLK was advertised like crazy.

    If it doesn't pass that, it's for sure a flop.

    It certainly wasn't 1986 movie bad, at least.
     
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    Yep, and it's passed the normal 2x but with the higher advertising budget still leaving things in question.
     
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    The final number looks like it'll be about 128 million. It should be noted that TLK is hardly the only film of the summer to flop stateside.

    Pirates couldn't make it's budget back (Did great WW though, 767 million)
    170 million, 230 budget

    Alien Covenant tanked
    74 million, 97 budget

    The Mummy flopped
    79 million, 125-195 budget

    Cars 3 disappointed
    144 million, 175 budget

    The Last Knight was an obvious failure
    127 million, 217 budget

    War of the Apes despite glowing reviews, is gonna end up costing the studio money
    97 million, 150 budget

    The only franchise tentpoles that met or exceeded expectations were Wonder Woman, Guardians and Spidey. What do those films have in common?

    Before the summer it was reported that the summer B.O was gonna be the lowest in a while and it turns out they were right. Obviously the reviews for most of the movies that tanked didn't help but I just think there's too many blockbusters stacked on top of each other.
     
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    cinema has changed, no question
     
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  6. soundwavejordan

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    Yup yup! People want quality movies instead of brainless things lol
     
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    This summer we saw a trend continue of you don't need tent pole money to make money. Get Out continued the trend of low budget horror making big money since the production budget was $4.5 million but the domestic box office was $175 million. Baby Driver had a production budget of $34 million and currently has a domestic box office total of $84 million. Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie had a budget of $38 million and it's domestic run is $71 million. 47 Meters Down cost $5 million to make and $42 million at the domestic box office.

    Even getting up there a bit in budgets the budget for Despicable Me 3 was $80 million and their domestic box office run is currently $213 million.

    So it's kind of funny to watch the mega budgets struggle while some of the movies with a budget under $100 million were seeing a pretty good summer.
     
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    With something like despicable me 3 only costing 80mill with those sweet graphics, surely a full CGI transformers movie has to be an option?. I'm 31 and I'd be all over it :) .
     
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    isn't the cybertron movie going to be cgi only ? or is just going to be animated?
     
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    Haha I did not see the news on that. They say animated so I'm guessing that will be a blend of 3d and 2d. That will do for me :) 
     
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    Lets keep in mind the Bee movie was reported to be a Low Budget film before TLK came out
     
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    if we're talking strictly monetary, all of bay's movies made their budget back, tlk will be no different
     
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    I think it will be interesting to see how Bumblebee does. If it's a smaller movie with a good story and character focused it might be good. Logan and Deadpool have shown such 'smaller' movies are viable even in big franchises. With a new director, can't wait to see what he does.

    I guess TLK didn't do so well. I still enjoyed it I feel kind of like RotF with this one. I'm just not sure what happened. I honestly thought AoE was a big step in the right direction in a lot of ways. But TLK unfortunately seemed to suffer from trying to do too much and being too heavily edited. There was still some good stuff in there IMO and some good ideas, but execution wasn't great.
     
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    The question remains how much Bay has poisoned general perception of the Transformers.

    Even if the Bumblebee movie turns out to be much better written and directed, it's not a guarantee that narrative will stick in the public consciousness. Transformers is so strongly associated with poor writing and characterisation that people may simply refuse to believe a well written Transformers movie can exist
     
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    Yep. Most kids Will go see it ofcourse,but the rest Will resist i think.
    Even if the movie gets good reviews lot's of people Will just wait till it is On tv or blu-ray,cutting profits from the box office yet again.
     
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    As of tomorrow, TLK will be pulled from my two local theaters. Wonder Woman still with 4 showings a day at both of them.
     
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    Bigger fandoms than Transformers has, for one!
     
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