I think that the 1 or 2 people who we see constantly in these threads bring up the exact same arguements and derail said threads should understand that it's best to just move on. Don't like something? Then just voice your thoughts and move on with your life. Like I myself have generally very low expectations about this movie and I have problems with it but once I voiced them in expectations thread I just moved on. Now I just simply want to take part in the speculation but I can't even do that because the usual individual wants to cause 3 different arguements to happen at the same time.