Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Officially Announced

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by SilverOptimus, Jun 22, 2021.

  1. AspiringCreator

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    Just a tiny defense here, at least the Mandarin in the MCU was a GENUINE subversion of expectations that was planned out to where while it is disappointing I can see for people who wanted the proper magical Mandarin in the movie? I think at the very least no one can deny that they didn't see that twist coming and that at least when you look at the reasonings you can understand it. With the TF movies there was often no reasoning beyond either Bay's sense of what he thought looked cool and/or was funny.
     
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    I'll just poke my head in here briefly to say that this does not sound good. Same producer, way too many factions involved for one 2 hour film, and it supposedly releases in 1 year and they haven't even started principle photography yet? It used to take 3 years to make a movie like this. Lately it's been around 2 years. But to make an effects heavy movie like this in 1 year sounds ridiculous. The poor CGI artists are going to die from stress. Or the CGI will just be terrible.

    And I'm really tired of movies using RISE in the title. It's been incredibly lame for a very long time. Just awful.

    I'm also not a fan of BW but I'm willing to give this a chance. Good luck to everyone involved in making this movie! You will need it!

    Carry on! :) 
     
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    Two Optimus and a Dinobot named... Dinobot. NGL as much as I am a fan of Beast Wars, I agree this can be a recipe for disaster. My guess is they worry a pure Beast Wars offering may be problematic... Also, who knows if they also want/need Auto endorsement? Chevy gained a good bit thanks to VW initially declining use of Bumblebee all these years.
     
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    No, I meant the people actually writing TFP. Prime isn't mockingly known as 'Transformers: Status Quo' for no reason.
     
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    Don’t think I’ve ever heard that, so must be known as that by very few people.
     
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    It’s been about a day since the news broke, and after meditating on it I have to say I’m not as worried as I was before, but I’m still very cautious. Hearing the director talk about Optimus makes me feel like he really does care, and from what I’ve heard it sounds like Lorenzo is the only one who was actually making Bayverse comparisons.

    And I hope that that is the case; that the mentions of the Bayverse were just comparisons and not actually saying it’s going to be connected to it. I’ve got a list of priorities for what I think needs to happen, and at the top of that list is #1- Needs to explicitly cut ties with Bayverse.

    Beyond that, there is still a chance that the movie could be bad. My next biggest concern is that they might be shoving too much stuff in the movie to really give any of the characters enough characterization. The way it was described sounds like a bit of a mess, but I feel that there could be a way to do it well.

    The best way of doing it would probably be mainly Autobots/Maximals vs. the Terrorcons, and while the Predacons are not a major factor in the movie and the Decepticons are barely there at all. The Predacons could be stressed as being an important faction, but just not that involved in this particular story. (This is going off of the assumption that they would be more prominent as the main bad guys in another movie(s) that is/are solely focused on the beasts, but for this story it kind of lumps the beasts together as the guys who are being hunted by the Terrorcons). Then the Decepticons could be just lightly mentioned, and maybe teased at the end of the movie (“oh no, the Decepticons have taken notice of this crazy battle that we had on earth, and now Megatron himself is coming to see what’s going on!”).

    If that does happen, then my biggest concerns would be out of the way. Leaving room for some much lighter nitpicks/pet peeves, like Bumblebee still being a Camaro and Arcee being made a motorcycle AGAIN. But that’s all small stuff in comparison to my biggest worries that I mentioned earlier.

    I am also excited for quite a few things, mainly seeing the Terrorcons. My only issue with them is that I kinda don’t like how they have nothing to do with the Abominus Terrorcons, unless those guys are also members of this faction. I guess I don’t see why they couldn’t be, assuming it is a relatively large faction and not just a little team. Them also (maybe?) having something to do with The Planet Muncher is interesting because it helps tie them to the Energon and Prime versions of the Terrorcons, and hopefully if the G1 Terrorcons can be part of this as well, it would help to make it a bit less confusing by tying all previous usages of the name together. That also (hopefully) sounds like the same thing that they’re doing with Scourge; that is, merging together all previous usages of the name into one guy. He’s apparently dark colored and has smokestacks (RiD ‘01), also has some orange to him and has a lot of fire (Cybertron), and has a goatee and claws and may have something to do with Unicron (G1). Again, this is something that I like, that is, when there are so many redundant/confusing concepts that are then tied up into one concept. (Although the idea of him being a factionless hunter kind of makes him seem a bit similar to lockdown, which seems redundant in a different way).

    It would be cool if he also had his G1 bat wings and his weird head tube thingy, but that’s just me. I thought I heard somewhere about him having a spiked helmet, so maybe that’s it? Or it could be more Optimus Prime style spikes or something. Or maybe both? I drew up a quick little design of what I think would be cool.
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    Yeah, I’m just going to wait until I watch the movie before I learn anything more about the story. No sense in burning myself out with a constant stream of leaks before it even releases. The only thing I might be interested in seeing in the coming months is pictures of the toys.
     
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    If Tarantulas was in this film, I predict he could be a Terrorcon infiltrating the predacons or just be a terrorcon if the preds are mostly reptiles.
     
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    Rumor from where? Some random youtuber posting a theory?
     
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    They’ve been filming in Montreal for several weeks now, and I believe just wrapped it up. They start filming in Peru shortly. I imagine that will be finished up within two months or so, leaving plenty of time for CGI/post production.

    3-5 months of principle photography is pretty standard for major studio releases. Obviously it can be less or more, but there’s nothing really odd about this one.
     
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    Only good beetle design is BB and Early idw
     
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    Tarantulas was supposed to work for the Vok in Beast Wars and I think that in some future spin-off comics he was also an agent of Unicron. So him having a secret agenda, siding with Terrorcons or even trying to infiltrate Predacons would be in character.
     
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    i hope this is better than bumblebee, while i enjoyed it the first time especially for being directed by someone who isn't Michael bay i eventually felt it just wasn't that much better of a movie. ultimately my current expection is that it'll either be on par or worse than bumblebee simply judging by the small info we have so im well aware my stance might change overtime.
     
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    The fact she even said that this early just kind of proves that it isn't true, otherwise she could get in a LOT of trouble.
     
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    I believe the improvements were really few and they could make more to give a more unique aspect
    I agree with that. Even tho I respect they should have freedom to try new things, having new stuff which looks like the original in something is good. Like cybertron games and animated did. But I still think they can be very creative with that, for example, making Ironhide's robot and color G1 like but with movie canons and maybe a pickup, putting some swords in Starscream just like he had in UT, those stuff. I actually liked how Animated mixed tf1 Megatron and G1 very well (in Cybertronian form)
     
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    The most writers can get away with saying this early on is "I'm happy with what we got to do, hope you like it".
     
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    What power does he have in the franchise tho? I read he's a producer but idk what are his limits
    I never said it was. I said it happens a lot. Yellow Jacket is a good example and Mandarim is a pretty bad one.
    As I said, they all had traces of G1 but they still were pretty new. Some less and some more. Soundwave, Shockwave, Optimus... They were pretty unique. I didn't say they did not look G1
    No. This:
     
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    I dunno if I can show that level of restraint, but I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. Beast Wars on the big screen is something childhood me always wanted to see, and adulthood me can no fully appreciate it. I don't expect it to be the Beast Wars I know, but IMO the less I'm comparing it to the original show the better. I want the spirit captured more than the details, if that makes sense.

    I especially agree with the bit about peanut M&Ms. :D 
     
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    Do you guys think they'll keep the Bumblebee scale? The robots were really small there, at least way smaller than in Baymovies. Even Prime chest was too small for his truck, and with those sizes the fly bots will have to do a lot of mass shifting
    With this question, do you guys think Arcee will be way smaller than the others or something like in TFP?
     
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    Well to each their own on that front. Personally I was just more glad we got good designs that I can remember and actually admire rather than the clutter that was the late-era movie designs. I would like more unique stuff but I get with Bumblebee that maybe it was them just playing it safe because this film was going to decide whether Transformers can continue in a rebooted direction or if it just dies here and we don't see another film for the next couple years.

    To be fair that's the balance I would love to see them really go for more because, honestly I'm all for that. Give the characters consistent and distinct looks that are very much like their old selves while not being afraid to evolve them and switch them up when need-be. It's honestly why I'm looking forward to certain characters like Mirage and Bumblebee in this one because while it's clear they're aiming more for G1? They're also willing to play around with it a bit I think which should hopefully lead to cool designs. I think honestly if we weren't so inundated with G1 we'd probably be singing a different tune about the more heavy G1 influence.
     
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