Transformers: Rise Console Game In Trouble After LeYou Walkout?

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by SilverOptimus, Aug 26, 2021.

  1. RKillian

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    They needed to pair Devastation's visuals with FOC's gameplay. Devastation was boring - go to this room, punch some guys, go to that room, punch some more guys, etc. FOC had actual missions - but it was stuck on pre-war Cybertron.
     
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    Because having worked in the games industry for three decades, including eight years in games journalism back in the dim and distant, you develop a bit of an instinct for any possibility that the end product may be a wee tiny bit crap. And that's before this latest state of affairs.
     
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    Honestly, you could say similar for War for Cybertron. It just had a bigger budget for more elaborate setpieces. Somewhat less-so with Fall of Cybertron, and its more personalized mission dynamics. But ultimately combat still revolves heavily on repetitive enemy types and limited tactics, with a very tried-and-true gameplay loop behind all the glitz and glamour of the character gimmicks.

    Goes back to what I said earlier, though. A property like Transformers really feels like it needs something innovative to make it work in a videogame environment. But there's no money in the industry for innovation at the moment. Not when bundled with impressive graphics, at any rate. We're kinda hooped right now for that "dream" game to ever reach fruition. Not until Hasbro deems it necessary to invest in their own, in-house games development studio, at any rate.
     
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    All signs point to a troubled development with a lot of stuff happening behind the scenes. Even if Certain Affinity and Splash Damage could somehow pull off a miracle, actually got a good portion of the game done and find a new publisher that wont severely fuck with it to match their plans, I still think the game would be in trouble. All Leyou side of development is nonexistent, Certain Affinity is crunching along with other Halo devs, plus working on their own new in house IP, splash damage honestly dont know a whole lot what's going on there but they certainly cannot make a AAA game solo with no publisher and supporting studios.

    And now especially since we got some insight in what's going on behind the scenes with Josh Ye, it's really hard to defend this game is still gonna make it. All signs point to a canned or going to be canned soon game. I really want this game to be a thing, but I fear fairly soon, Leyou and Tencent will start making headlines with all their shady behind the scenes shit and this game will be lost in the crossfire.

    I am praying Certain Affinity or Splash Damage can give some good news, but right now, it looks bleak.
     
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    It goes all the way back to Mystery of Convoy. I thought FOC was a masterful attempt to put us in the middle of a war. Just change the setting to Earth and the bullets to lasers.
     
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    Drone-type enemies are probably unavoidable, because otherwise you make canon characters look like paper. Either that, or the entire game is a boss rush, which isn't really fun because it doesn't really foster that "high/low" tension swing.

    I was just saying that your criticisms of Devastation could be equally leveled at WFC/FoC. Especially when you also omit mention of the typical Platinum Games genre-blending sequences that mix up the experience quite thorougly, like the moments when it suddenly delves into top-down exploration, or a side-scrolling obstacle course, or a rail shooter.
     
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    From what I've gathered, it seems like that the game is still happening.

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    The news may be alarming but none of this is set in stone as far as we know. Wait for an official announcement or confirmation before you guys start jumping to conclusions.
     
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    "Tencent"
    Into the trash it goes.
     
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    I wouldn't vote this game off just yet. A ton of money has been poured into this project alone. It would be of very little benefit to Tencent if they purchased companies only to let them die. If anything I would expect them to invest into companies that hold big name IPs such as Transformers. Considering their previous game that didn't fly very well with Tencent Games using the name Transformers Online. Now that Tencent has joined with these companies, we can only hope that an agreement will be made between Tencent, Hasbro, Leyou Technologies and Certain Affinity. Otherwise, its possible Certain Affinity could hand off the project to a different company like they did with Bioshock 4 giving the game off to Cloud Chamber Studios. It is completely up to Hasbro if they come to an agreement on what happens next. Certain Affinity is still hiring for positions. We will just have to wait and see what happens with the contract that is still in place.
     
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    I would, or at least severely question it. This really doesn't point to a whole lot. Yes, they were working on transformers, but they also were working on two new in house IPs, a survival game and a completely unknown one. Not to mention they are helping out other studios, so this very well could be a game they are just helping out with like Halo.

    I mean anything is possible, but so much has happened behind the scenes that has severely negatively impacted the game that it is totally understandable and in the realm of possibility to question if this game is gonna make. I am not trying to be overly negative about it, but at this point, it is really hard to avoid the signs of a very troubled development. I mean hell, the only definitive answer we've really had for awhile that this thing is still maybe a thing is the Transformers Rise domain being taken, and even that could very easily just be something related to the movies and not the game and we just jumped to conclusions because we want this game so badly to happen.

    Another worry I had, is that the game is still happening, but since Leyous work on it is nonexistent, Certain affinity too busy, and Splash damage not able to fully dev a AAA game solo with no publisher, that this game gets sent off to a third party studio and the game sucks donkey balls. And if this was the case, I would say just can the whole project because we have had enough bad games the past few years and I'd rather wait even longer for a good one.

    Total shot in the dark; if this was for some reason a weird rumor they spread to get the fans to stop pestering them every five seconds, I would call that a bad move on their part because they need as much exposure as possible to reel fans back into Transformers.
     
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    I mean...isn't that what the WfC games did?

    Go to a room, shoot up some guys. Go into another room, shoot up more guys. Sometimes you did it on a turret.

    WfC games weren't big exploratory based shooters like classic Doom or Quake. It's a move from acne to scene shooting things up. The games played linearly every time. Your criticism of Devastation literally fit WfC too.
     
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    While technically true, WfC has vastly more interesting environments, it actually feels like a lived in world, way better story, you could play as Autobots and Decepticons, you also had playable flying characters, way better music and sound design, and tighter, more impactful combat. I love Platinum Game's style action but it's floaty and you don't really feel the impact of your blows. Devastation was fun but the environments were incredibly bland and uninteresting with very little variation. It's easy to get lost in the "city" as nice as it was to be able to explore around a little bit. The complete lack of any npcs, just you and some enemies made the world feel empty and unfinished. You can't even run around with the other playable characters with you to make it feel more like a team adventure. In WfC you do have that and it adds a lot imo. Plus there are other characters and creatures that populate the world and you can look around and see fighting taking place in the distance. I love that kind of world building and environmental storytelling. Plus the game isn't relegated to one small chunk of city like Devastastion. You go on missions all over Cybertron.

    Yes the levels were linear but I happily go back and replay WfC and FoC on a regular basis because I love being in that world with those iterations of the characters. I've replayed Devastation with every character for the trophies and I don't anticipate ever touching it again outside of maybe the challenge missions just for the trophies. It's just not a fun world to be in, after the 2nd playthrough the rest felt like a massive chore.

    Also, you realize saying they're the same because you fight guys in one room then go to another room and fight some more guys covers 90% of all games.
     
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    This is exactly why I stopped playing Devastation halfway through, yet replay WFC/FOC from time to time. On Devastation, High-speed, floaty action didn't evoke the feeling of weighty robots to me. But other games from Platinum such as the TMNT one, feels right with high-speed ninja action.
     
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    80% of games that get cancled are never announced to the public.
     
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    Devastation also doesn't let you play as Air Raid, which is a point against it (and FOC for that matter)
     
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    Nowhere does it state the game is cancelled. It's just in a realm of uncertainty. Of course, like many people, they'll choose to say it is since the information is ambiguous. Either way, for a project this big (budget, development time, etc), the public will find out eventually. We discover Transformers games getting cancelled before people can even play it all the time albeit never close to this scale.
     
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    One of the reasons that I cannot watch through Japanese G1 is that they replaced the modern warfare with sword dueling. Why have robots that turn into jets and dinosaurs that can fly and shoot lasers and use special powers when they just fight hand-to-hand on the ground all the time? That's exactly what happened with Devastation. Everything cool about being a TransFormer went right out the window so they could punch generics with slightly altered palettes like it was Final Fight or Streets of Rage. Booooring.

    (Not that I don't like those games but it was such wasted potential with the TF license.)
     
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    I don't think it's canceled it just wouldn't make sense for them to years in the making only to be canceled because companies doing helicopters. I have that feeling inside that says to me its not but I'd be lying if I didn't say that I'm worried.
     
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